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View Poll Results: Is Ouija suitable for 11-year olds?
NO WAY, nuh-huh, absolutely NOT 11 33.33%
Not really, but..... 2 6.06%
Meh 5 15.15%
It's okay, but..... 3 9.09%
YES, it's perfect for that purpose 12 36.36%
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:37 PM   #181
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cic---do you NEVER watch horror movies? HUH? it's ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS the CHILD!



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Old 12-16-2008, 05:38 PM   #182
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(in some cases it's the "children" but you get where I'm going with this)
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In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic.

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Old 12-16-2008, 05:42 PM   #183
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S u b l i m a t i o n. You can project all the evil you want in the world, but the fact that you think your kids are just as capable, says a lot. Rowr kitty Kat!

The fact that you have a monster inside that has grown because of abuse, as a natural and normal adult, is one thing.

But to suppose that someone as young, is capable of sublimating the evil you can, is another thing eniterly. What are you protecting them from? Cultivating a relationship with an invisible friend that they like to play with?
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:51 PM   #184
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Wow. I was just messing around with the whole 'conjure evil' 'evil child' thing as a cultural joke exchange. I wasn't being serious. I guess that must have not computed somewhere over the internets. I am usually speaking with at least half of a forked tongue here and when I am NOT, when I am being serious, most people here can read that. Not you, though.

The fact that you missed the intended fun give and take of the exchange says, indeed, a lot about you.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:55 PM   #185
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I wasn't even talking to you specifically. It was more at spode and others that fear a ouija in the hands of children.

Yes, I get the evil children, horror movie joke.

My posts were little ships passing your posts in the night. Which doesn't say shit about me other than the fact that I was using your responses to lump statements so I wouldn't be double posting, as it took awhile to reach a point in the thread. Like leap frog.

Yes I temporarily missed the fun, DAMIEN.
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Old 12-16-2008, 06:08 PM   #186
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S u b l i m a t i o n. You can project all the evil you want in the world, but the fact that you think your kids are just as capable, says a lot. Rowr kitty Kat!
Ok. So that wasn't directed at my post? Ok.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:09 PM   #187
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I've raised kids.

I didn't say that Ouija automatically inferred evil.

Divination is a functional tool, much the same as psychoanalysis is a functional tool.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #188
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The fact that you missed the intended fun give and take of the exchange says, indeed, a lot about you.
are you referring to this?
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:51 PM   #189
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lol! That's part of the real fun I meant to mention(but forgot of course). lol!

I was referring to this :

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=514318&postcount=12

Why can't I just troll without people kicking up a fuss? Jeeezuz!

(Kind of like how you conveniently miss all the encouraging posts of mine in other threads.)
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:42 PM   #190
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I think you both need referring to this
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:43 PM   #191
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I think the point some people are making, and certainly one I'd think about is that if the spiritual world exists (and I believe it does) then a child of 11 isn't capable of determining what they might be 'conjuring' in which case, a ouija could be very dangerous.

That being said, I personally don't believe too many people would have the right kind of power to use a ouija for its intended purpose.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:18 PM   #192
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Not sure if kids can be evil? Ask Freckle Face Frankenstein, the girl who lived in the house behind ours. I didn't come up with that name (I think) but I sure didn't put a stop to it either. And I considered myself one of the good kids.

Ever read Lord of the Flies? Kids are more evil than most adults. They haven't learned empathy yet.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:55 PM   #193
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People who are deeply involved with the occult claim that there are "generational spiritual advantages" passed on in family lines. Advantages of the type that exist around, and are available to even children.
I've ran across the claim more than once.

I'm thinking that attending a psychic fair could introduce anyone here to those who know more than this, and possibly people who themselves got involved as children.
I'm not recommending it though.


Good point about empathy glatt.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:24 AM   #194
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Not sure if kids can be evil? Ask Freckle Face Frankenstein, the girl who lived in the house behind ours.
You're right, she does sound evil.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:30 AM   #195
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Oh DUH Pie.

BETTER AT CONJURING SPIRITS.

In your opinion, which is the same as mine, they are equally good at conjuring spirits.

I would like to hear what those folks who think a Ouija board has even a remote possibility of contacting spirits think, and why cardboard is a better ghost conjurer than the intrawebz.
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Ouija is a divination tool. Divination tools are not inherently good or bad by themselves, but one can make a pretty good argument for why 11 year olds shouldn't be doing divination.

If anyone wants more of a diatribe on all of this, PM me, 'cause I don't want anyone here to think I'm wacky, nor do I wish to bore anyone.
Please spode, with all due respect...tell me what you think of the online Ouija and how that is or is not the same as evil cardboard.

I imagine that most people would laugh at the online version...but I don't see how they can do that yet still think the cardboard version has a possibility of conjuring spirits.
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