If you outlaw guns, then only....

[mrnoodle]

No, I have a means of defense to prevent it. It's not foolproof, but it's better than legislation.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Spex...in my very humble opinion, I think you would be better served not to quote lines like that in an open forum where there are women present who have been the vicitm of rape.

i disagree

[morethanpretty]

I like guns because they are shiny!

Not really, I think that they are overly praised by gun advocates. They are not more effective then other means of self protection, learn self defense fighting, carry pepper spray or a stun gun if you're that scared of other people. Don't walk down a dark alley. Hell, I don't even go into our greenhouse because I'm scared that hobos live there (I dreamt it).

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Still evading the tough questions, eh, Maggie? Please answer:

I did answer. You're just hard of listening. Again. Read the freaking law. If you have trouble with the hard words, we can explain them to you.

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Maybe carrying a gun causes an increase in non-gun-related violence, too.

Well, the ref didn't have a gun, that we know about, so maybe it's just having a penis. We need to keep them out of the hands of criminals too...only the police should have penises.

You were kidding about rape, right?

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Henwood was surely aware that situations like this could get violent...

Considering he flattened Derkotch, I think we can be certain he was aware it could get violent. So Derkotch is at fault for not retreating...still blaming the victim, I see. Derkotch is more guilty for having a gun he didn't fire than his assailant was for having a fist he did. Yes, indeed, by all means let's go back to the days when muscle and size made might.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

I like guns because they are shiny!

Shiny guns are all well and good on display, but in darkness a subdued finish is less likely to betray your location.

[footfootfoot]

So why exactly did the asshole get out of his seat and start the whole ball rolling? That kind of childish lack of self control about a fucking kids game is a perfect example of "who shouldn't be allowed to own a gun"

I submit that gun ownership should be a privilege, like driving a car. Not a right.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

I did answer. You're just hard of listening. Again. Read the freaking law. If you have trouble with the hard words, we can explain them to you.
...

I want to know if Maggie thinks that whipping out his gun was justified. You did not answer that.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

So why exactly did the asshole get out of his seat and start the whole ball rolling?

And then proceed to pull a gun in a fist-fight. What a "victim" this guy is.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

...Well, the ref didn't have a gun, that we know about, so maybe it's just having a penis. We need to keep them out of the hands of criminals too...only the police should have penises...

To a certain extent (no pun intended) a gun is a penis. Just ask Freud. Hmmm. That explains a lot.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

So why exactly did the asshole get out of his seat and start the whole ball rolling? ...

He got out of his seat because he was packing a big gun, not penis.:p

[BigV]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

So why exactly did the asshole get out of his seat and start the whole ball rolling? That kind of childish lack of self control about a fucking kids game is a perfect example of "who shouldn't be allowed to own a gun"

I submit that gun ownership should be a privilege, like driving a car. Not a right.

You're damn right!
:applause:

[Griff]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Who are the state? Can't we do anything to minimise their tiresomeness?

One man's answer, No Treason.

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

I like guns because they are shiny!

Not really, I think that they are overly praised by gun advocates. They are not more effective then other means of self protection, learn self defense fighting, carry pepper spray or a stun gun if you're that scared of other people. Don't walk down a dark alley. Hell, I don't even go into our greenhouse because I'm scared that hobos live there (I dreamt it).

Having a firearm means you don't have to be a prisoner of fear and avoid places.

Originally Posted by footfootfoot
So why exactly did the asshole get out of his seat and start the whole ball rolling? That kind of childish lack of self control about a fucking kids game is a perfect example of "who shouldn't be allowed to own a gun"

I submit that gun ownership should be a privilege, like driving a car. Not a right.

Originally Posted by BigV

You're damn right!
:applause:

[BigV]

Testy, much, rk? Clearly you didn't follow the link. My enthusiastic support of footfootfoot's post was specifically about the

perfect example of "who shouldn't be allowed to own a gun"

part.

You've read enough of my posts to know my respect for the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. We are a nation of laws and there are several scenarios where someone would be prohibited from owning a gun, in case you're tweaked about the "privleged" part.

As to your statement:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Having a firearm means you don't have to be a prisoner of fear and avoid places.

I'm not buying it.

Your gun is your security blanket?

*I* don't have a firearm, and *I* am no prisoner of fear. And I go where I want to, when I want to. And the places I avoid without a gun are places I would avoid with a gun. There's no place I can only go to with a gun.

There are people limited from owning guns. People who are violent criminals and have a history of violent mental illness. That is enough.
A right is a Right. That is all.