Perverting science for politics

[tw]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Plenty of people fled America in the sixties and seventies. Oh wait, they dont count, they were just liberal hippy idiots, right?

People will always fear totalitarianism that UG promotes. No wonder he also loved Nixon as he loves George Jr. Notice how UG fears the Iraq Study Group. Facts and reality. Too much for UG to read. He feels; therefore he knows. It is called decisions based upon a political agenda.

UG said he was reading Thomas P.M. Barnett's Blueprint For Action: A Future Worth Creating in this post on 9 Nov 2006. Why is he so silent? He had to read something more complex than Animal Farm. Barnett also demonstrates why Urbane Guerrilla's politics are a prescription for failure. How UG’s totalitarianism only results in failure. UG does not discuss even that book. Instead he somehow knows.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Screw off, tw. I'm still working on it, as it repays careful study. Screw off twice and thrice, madman. I know from your posts that you are the totalitarianism promoter around here -- one cannot in practice be a Communist and a democrat.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Griff

Rothbard

I read For A New Liberty, thanks. I found it seminal, though I don't share Rothbard's touching faith in anarchy.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Of course I know why you dont think theyre to be respected; youre a paleolithic, neomccarthyist, pinko-hating nutjob. (and yes, I could go on)

Now you get to figure out why I'd think you're not to be respected.

(hint: it's right there^)

Sorry, it's because you're under twenty and believe you know it all. Call it an occupational hazard. I'm fifty, and I know patience -- I have a pretty good idea that your opinions will evolve as you become fully adult. The reason, dear fellow, to hate pinkoes is found in the butcher's bill of Communism -- I've said before that the anticommunist is the pro-human, and that is just the most basic reason why.

The rest, and anything you could go on about in this vein, is adjectival froth, and impressive to the high schooler, but that's it. The reason I'm untroubled is I've had more of a life than you. Stay out from under heavy falling objects and you'll get there too.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

And those boat people continued coming for 30 years? Yes, according to UG propaganda. No if UG uses a neocon political agenda to rationalize.

There is no prospect of further boat people and refugees now that Vietnam has seen Communism doesn't work.

This emphasis on some 30-year period is opaque -- perhaps tw is trying to win through gibberish.

Won't work, kid. The mad never really get that they are mad. Trouble is, everyone else does.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

There is no prospect of further boat people and refugees now that Vietnam has seen Communism doesn't work.

Yet you ignore the fact that Vietnamese communism was defeated in the marketplace not on the battlefield. This opposition to reality is reflected in your views about defeating radical Islam.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

I'm not ignoring it at all, much as you'd like to believe the contrary. I am very pleased that Communism fell in Vietnam of its own contradictions.

I also recognize the validity of Heinlein's contention that "violence -- naked force -- has settled more issues in history" than any other means. Like it or not. Unfreedom needs to be destroyed, discredited, and defunded, Griff. Seems to me this is a primary mission for the committed libertarian, big L or small. Otherwise the unfree try and kill the free -- which I think we agree is no good.

[axeman84]

is it wrong to pray for bushs' assasination?

[glatt]

That post won't trigger Carnivore.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by axeman84

is it wrong to pray for Bushs' assassination?

yes, although I don't think you'll be praying alone.

[tw]

Originally Posted by axeman84

is it wrong to pray for ...?

Posting statements like that can get you a visit from the US Secret Service especially now that government so little trusts us as to spy on everyone. Spying even by the Defense Dept.

I happen to know how touchy those 'powers that be' have always been about such public statements. Strongly recommend you delete your post and learn how touchy this nation's security systems have become. Meanwhile, the attitude itself is also a bad thing for you AND for all Americans who do not sympathize.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by yesman065

yes, although I don't think you'll be praying alone.

...On account of assholes coming in bouquets.

Now a slightly smarter collection of dumbasses -- study hard and you might get that far, axenutz -- realize that if they shoot W they make Dick Cheney President.:p :p :p

Some people...! Fuck up a one-car funeral, steal a hot stove and drop it on their foot, mix up Spike Lee and Spike Jones with Spike Milligan, and never get French benefits.

[axeman84]

thanks for the insight, Urbane Goofoff, you might be the smartest of dumbass',,,,,besides it was just a random thought....send over the secret service,,,i'll make coffee and stem cell cheesecake,,,tee hee

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by tw

Posting statements like that can get you a visit from the US Secret Service especially now that government so little trusts us as to spy on everyone. Spying even by the Defense Dept.

I happen to know how touchy those 'powers that be' have always been about such public statements. Strongly recommend you delete your post and learn how touchy this nation's security systems have become. Meanwhile, the attitude itself is also a bad thing for you AND for all Americans who do not sympathize.

They won't do anything unless you already have a background. I am part of some other forums that someone started a thread about a people's army that will assassinate the police and government officals, he was serious too. He is still there.

[yesman065]

Yeah, well those other forums aren't the Cellar!! !! j/k :p