Awesome People - Page 12

xoxoxoBruce · 04-25-2018, 04:37 PM

Teddy Fucking Roosevelt Jr... Former asst Secretary to the Navy, former Governor General of the Philippines, former Governor of Puerto Rico, former New York State Assemblyman, connected as you can get, and 47 years old.

He Didn't Have To Be There... or maybe because of all that he did.

addisonsophia · 07-24-2018, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Teddy Fucking Roosevelt Jr... Former asst Secretary to the Navy, former Governor General of the Philippines, former Governor of Puerto Rico, former New York State Assemblyman, connected as you can get, and 47 years old.

He Didn't Have To Be There... or maybe because of all that he did.

Thanks for sharing this information with us..

Diaphone Jim · 04-26-2018, 11:22 AM

A hero, sounds like.
Maybe 57 years old?

xoxoxoBruce · 04-26-2018, 11:29 AM

You're right, 57. I read it as '97 instead of '87. DUH

Griff · 04-28-2018, 07:45 AM

I guess this country stopped making Roosevelts of all flavors? We need a better class of rich people.

Nicolita · 05-11-2018, 04:25 AM

The coolest person in the world is Snoop Dogg!

Undertoad · 05-17-2018, 07:28 AM

Daryl Davis/TEDx: Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies

most awesome

Gravdigr · 05-17-2018, 04:13 PM

That was very interesting.

Quite awesome.

Griff · 05-18-2018, 07:45 AM

Wow. Mad respect.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-25-2018, 08:40 AM

He didn't cure cancer or bring world peace, but mad props to Mr Jones for being my kinda guy, a pay forward hero.

Pete Zicato · 05-26-2018, 10:51 AM

Nice.

monster · 06-10-2018, 10:32 PM

Glatt

This is in addition to starting a new job and modding this hellhole

jus' sayin'

glatt · 06-11-2018, 10:27 AM

Thanks monster!

It's been a busy several months. Just enough getting thrown at me to keep me running, but not overwhelming me. So far, it's working.

Gravdigr · 06-11-2018, 10:45 AM

Busy makes the time go by.

sexobon · 10-02-2018, 06:40 PM

This one raises some questions. Not about SSG Shurer, he undeniably demonstrated valor worthy of the MoH. Rather, about the Command that put him in for only a Silver Star.

Was that Special Forces A-Team devastated due to circumstances beyond anyone's control; or, did the Command drop the ball in the planning and preparation of the mission? Perhaps they didn't want a high profile award coming out of it that would draw attention.

According to Wikipedia, SSG Shurer joined the Army in 2002. The cited engagement took place in 2008. SSG Shurer would have been on his first reenlistment and considered a career soldier. He left the Army the next year; however, in 2009. I wonder if he lost confidence in the Command.

It's equally possible that he just got tired of combat and associated risks. In that case, it's a shame the MoH wasn't awarded initially as living MoH recipients are considered to have done the equivalent of giving their life for their country since there was no reasonable expectation they would miraculously survive (it's also awarded posthumously) and the military won't send them back into combat.

I noticed that he was going on 7 years time in service (TIS). At 7 years TIS I was a rank above his. I wonder if the Command was making sure that people like him were getting promoted as soon as eligible; or, if they were dropping the ball on that.

The end of the award citation had a glaring omission. Where it says: "His actions are in keeping with the finest traditions of military heroism and reflect distinct credit upon himself … etc." It doesn't mention the unit he was assigned to, the 3d Special Forces Group (Airborne) as at the beginning of the citation. Even if the citation is getting too lengthy, it generally says: "and reflect distinct credit upon himself, his unit, … etc." A snub of his Command?

At least it looks like he has a good job now, outside the military, where his military acquired skills will be an asset. Good on him.

04-25-2018, 04:37 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Teddy Fucking Roosevelt Jr... Former asst Secretary to the Navy, former Governor General of the Philippines, former Governor of Puerto Rico, former New York State Assemblyman, connected as you can get, and 47 years old. He Didn't Have To Be There... or maybe because of all that he did. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-26-2018, 11:29 AM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You're right, 57. I read it as '97 instead of '87. DUH __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-28-2018, 07:45 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I guess this country stopped making Roosevelts of all flavors? We need a better class of rich people. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-17-2018, 04:13 PM	#8
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	That was very interesting. Quite awesome. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-18-2018, 07:45 AM	#9
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Wow. Mad respect. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-26-2018, 11:22 AM	#3
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	A hero, sounds like. Maybe 57 years old?

05-11-2018, 04:25 AM	#6
Nicolita Writer of Writings Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 14	The coolest person in the world is Snoop Dogg!

05-17-2018, 07:28 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Daryl Davis/TEDx: Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies most awesome

05-25-2018, 08:40 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	He didn't cure cancer or bring world peace, but mad props to Mr Jones for being my kinda guy, a pay forward hero. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-26-2018, 10:51 AM	#11
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Nice. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

06-10-2018, 10:32 PM	#12
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Glatt This is in addition to starting a new job and modding this hellhole jus' sayin' __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

06-11-2018, 10:27 AM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Thanks monster! It's been a busy several months. Just enough getting thrown at me to keep me running, but not overwhelming me. So far, it's working.

06-11-2018, 10:45 AM	#14
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Busy makes the time go by. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-02-2018, 06:40 PM	#15
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	This one raises some questions. Not about SSG Shurer, he undeniably demonstrated valor worthy of the MoH. Rather, about the Command that put him in for only a Silver Star. Was that Special Forces A-Team devastated due to circumstances beyond anyone's control; or, did the Command drop the ball in the planning and preparation of the mission? Perhaps they didn't want a high profile award coming out of it that would draw attention. According to Wikipedia, SSG Shurer joined the Army in 2002. The cited engagement took place in 2008. SSG Shurer would have been on his first reenlistment and considered a career soldier. He left the Army the next year; however, in 2009. I wonder if he lost confidence in the Command. It's equally possible that he just got tired of combat and associated risks. In that case, it's a shame the MoH wasn't awarded initially as living MoH recipients are considered to have done the equivalent of giving their life for their country since there was no reasonable expectation they would miraculously survive (it's also awarded posthumously) and the military won't send them back into combat. I noticed that he was going on 7 years time in service (TIS). At 7 years TIS I was a rank above his. I wonder if the Command was making sure that people like him were getting promoted as soon as eligible; or, if they were dropping the ball on that. The end of the award citation had a glaring omission. Where it says: "His actions are in keeping with the finest traditions of military heroism and reflect distinct credit upon himself … etc." It doesn't mention the unit he was assigned to, the 3d Special Forces Group (Airborne) as at the beginning of the citation. Even if the citation is getting too lengthy, it generally says: "and reflect distinct credit upon himself, his unit, … etc." A snub of his Command? At least it looks like he has a good job now, outside the military, where his military acquired skills will be an asset. Good on him.

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