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Old 11-02-2010, 12:07 AM   #1
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How about putting a link with that quote.
Sorry bout that. Done.
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Its your point. Back it up. Otherwise, I am just going to continue with the assumption that signs like that were rare.
That's fine with me. I never claimed anything other than that they were there and a quick Google search gave me some without any trouble. There is no point in putting any more up. How many would I have to put up anyway? 5? 10? 100? And to what end? Whats the point?
It doesn't really matter.
The point is that the mainstream media didn't point out one, not one. And there were plenty there. Were they in the minority? Of course. But again, As far as the mainstream media reported it, it was a love fest against extremists. That simply wasn't the whole truth. I have no intention of convincing you of anything. It was a political rally and there were hate signs there. Inconvenient for you - maybe, but facts nonetheless.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:29 AM   #2
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But you left out he lead in to that quote...
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Jon Stewart’s “restoring Sanity” rally on the mall in Washington, D.C. tomorrow wasn’t supposed to be political based on what Stewart himself has said but attendees are planning for a liberal love fest and the mainstream media will be playing along.
Stewart pitched this to Comedy Central as a publicity stunt, but considering his audience, and being the first opportunity for people to demonstrate their displeasure with the hate rhetoric, the attendees made it political.

When money talks, it spews hate. The ads on television are 1% vote for me, and 99% vote against him.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:24 AM   #3
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But you left out he lead in to that quote...
Inocorrect, I quoted Stewart in post #146
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But they have been explicit about one aspect: "This is not a political rally in any way, shape or form," Stewart told CNN's Larry King last week.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:04 AM   #4
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In fact, Classic, here is a site that is tallying the signs. So far they have 350 to list and they are so not like the one you showed that my assumption still stands.

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Old 11-02-2010, 12:22 AM   #5
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from NBC...
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In his Washington Post column Sunday, Robert McCartney wrote that though “the crowd was wary of admitting it,” it was “decidedly partisan and decidedly liberal.” Though attendees told him that they “wanted less anger and more thoughtfulness in public debate and media coverage of what ails the nation,” follow-up questions showed that most thought “more calm debate and rationality would inevitably lead to adoption of pretty much the entire campaign platform of the national Democratic Party.”

Despite all this, the rally was good for democracy. Stewart genuinely believes in respectful debate -- he has chided audiences of his show for booing conservative guests, and he has a good relationship with some right-leaning media peers like Bill O’Reilly. But the rally also showed that intolerance of other views is not merely a right-wing phenomenon.
Bold mine.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:22 AM   #6
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But those very very few signs didn't define the rally. The hundreds of other signs did. See the list at the link in my post above.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:51 PM   #7
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But those very very few signs didn't define the rally. The hundreds of other signs did. See the list at the link in my post above.
Why wouldn't people give the same deference to the Tea Party?
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:07 AM   #8
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Because when the pictures of the tea party signs are posted, there are dozens and dozens of really hateful signs, with no point but name calling. I've seen funny signs too, some rather clever ones, but the hate signs are in the majority. Now that may be because the hate signs are better posting material, but there are so many of them, they can't be isolated instances.

The other thing is the interviews with tea party attendees, where when asked what they're upset about, can only respond with slogans and slurs. Because of who's doing the interviews, and why, I figured it was like Jay Leno's man on the street bit. Talk to a hundred people, and pick out the idiots to make the clip, so I wrote that off.

But when I talk to people, real live working(or not) people, I get the same response from 90% of them. That bothers me a lot. It's ok they disagree with Obama, but these people are really and truly clueless. When they tell me Obama isn't a citizen, their taxes have doubled in the last two years, or Obama caused the recession, I know they're out in lala land.

That's depressing because these people are being used, and in my opinion to fuck themselves and the country.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:23 AM   #9
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:26 AM   #10
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Heres hundreds more for you to look at, Classic.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:27 AM   #11
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Heres hundreds more for you to look at, Classic.
He's not gonna look! He's too busy bursting his buttons over a rally.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:28 AM   #12
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He's being twerpy about this whole thing.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:31 AM   #13
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So now you admit that some hateful signs were there... well at least that's progress.
Perhaps you also missed this...
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I agree with you that the rally was a good thing. But make no mistake it was political
ETA - Bri - I'[m nt busting shit over the rally. you all and your "We're better than them attitude" makes me sick. Especially when proven wrong.

Twerpy? WTF is that? You don't like the reality that there are people on "your side" as hateful as those you despise on the other. Tough shit. Welcome to the real world.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:35 AM   #14
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Who me? I didn't see any hateful signs. I don't think the one you posted is hateful. Calling anyone who doesn't agree a socialist/Nazi/communist is hateful.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:15 AM   #15
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Who me? I didn't see any hateful signs. I don't think the one you posted is hateful. Calling anyone who doesn't agree a socialist/Nazi/communist is hateful.
Picture on post 159?
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