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Old 11-06-2006, 04:10 PM   #1
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It has been shown, by more than one, scientific study, that homophobia is rooted in homosexual tendencies.
I'm sure some closet case with issues will ask that I provide proof... here is a link to . Have at it.
The are very easy to find.
People who worry about other's sexuality HAVE to have issues about their own, it is the only thing that makes sense.
Another's sexuality cannot affect you, unless it is self-inflicted.
Hey, Dr. Freud, is that your professional opinion or more crap mouth. Homophobia is another one of those argument control tactics. The notion that people that don't accept homosexuality are supposed to be repressing is like playing the race card or women hater to control the conversation.

It’s not my place to tell people how to live but I don't have to accept it or like it. Characterizing those that don't agree with you as physiologically deficient is the weakest hand you can play. Just like playing the race card or women hater, it’s nothing more than a cheap shot.
 
Old 11-06-2006, 04:24 PM   #2
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It’s not my place to tell people how to live but I don't have to accept it or like it.
What, exactly, does it mean when you don't "accept" homosexuality? I hear all the time that homosexuals are trying to "force" people to "accept" them, but I've bever been clear what that entails. I would have expected that if you recognize that it's not your " place to tell people how to live", then you have accepted it.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:50 AM   #3
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What, exactly, does it mean when you don't "accept" homosexuality? I hear all the time that homosexuals are trying to "force" people to "accept" them, but I've bever been clear what that entails. I would have expected that if you recognize that it's not your " place to tell people how to live", then you have accepted it.
No its not acceptance. Life is about choices. Respecting peoples choice, good or bad, immoral or unethical, ethical and moral, or even criminal, isn't acceptance its recognition. Once recognized its up to the law or the social norms in a particular culture of a society to determine its affect on how people treat one another.

We may not like many of the laws or social norms of a society or culture but we obey them as a civil duty. In any society no person is an island we are all part of a community link together. Norms change and cultures evolves but its the direction of the evolution which will always be in contention. Ok!

I know, I know, more BM rantings.

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Old 11-06-2006, 04:45 PM   #4
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Hey, Dr. Freud, is that your professional opinion or more crap mouth.
Um...isn't pretty much *all* of this dialogue/bullshit purely opinion? I think it is. Therefore, I think your opinion is pretty sucky. And I, like you, am entitled to my opinion.

However, because you find it offensive, I'll not go into the myriad possible sociological and psychological aberrations that would seem likely to have contributed to the formation of our respective opinions.
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:23 PM   #5
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Hey, Dr. Freud, is that your professional opinion or more crap mouth. Homophobia is another one of those argument control tactics. The notion that people that don't accept homosexuality are supposed to be repressing is like playing the race card or women hater to control the conversation.

It’s not my place to tell people how to live but I don't have to accept it or like it. Characterizing those that don't agree with you as physiologically deficient is the weakest hand you can play. Just like playing the race card or women hater, it’s nothing more than a cheap shot.

Youre right about the race card... insofar as saying that
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Homosexuality is an abomination of mankind.
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It is what I have been expressing my anger at. It is a repugnant and grotesque statement.
is no different than saying
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How dare you imply that I was a nigger? I'm offended that you would dare say that about me, I am not one of the lesser subhumans! Being a nigger is a sin against god, and I would never accuse someone of that kind of awfulness.
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:33 AM   #6
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Hey, Dr. Freud, is that your professional opinion or more crap mouth. Homophobia is another one of those argument control tactics. The notion that people that don't accept homosexuality are supposed to be repressing is like playing the race card or women hater to control the conversation.

It’s not my place to tell people how to live but I don't have to accept it or like it. Characterizing those that don't agree with you as physiologically deficient is the weakest hand you can play. Just like playing the race card or women hater, it’s nothing more than a cheap shot.
That little emotional outburst is pretty telling.
 
Old 11-07-2006, 06:23 AM   #7
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That little emotional outburst is pretty telling.
Do tell. If I can articulate why can't you? You got a big mouth and an insulting disposition now show everybody you got some gray matter too.
 
Old 11-06-2006, 09:37 AM   #8
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Old 11-06-2006, 10:10 AM   #9
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BM - you and your "holier than thou" attitude just is not going to cut it here. You may bully your opinions on whomever you hang around with wherever you are from, but not here pal - welcome to the cellar "where diverse opinions are welcome and bigotry & hate are publically refused."
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:47 PM   #10
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BM - you and your "holier than thou" attitude just is not going to cut it here. You may bully your opinions on whomever you hang around with wherever you are from, but not here pal - welcome to the cellar "where diverse opinions are welcome and bigotry & hate are publically refused."
Better reread some of your own post then come and then come and tell me about "holier then thou" remarks.

I'll say it again; you want to take shots at me then don't act shocked when I take a few back at you. Thats not holier than thou thats standing up to people that claim to be wide minded yet are narrow in defintions. I'm not going to sit back and let my remarks be twisted and the topic evaded through cheap shots on my character.
 
Old 11-06-2006, 10:15 AM   #11
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...welcome to the cellar "where diverse opinions are welcome and bigotry & hate are publically refused."
Hey, that tagline isn't very funny...
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Old 11-06-2006, 10:36 AM   #12
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Old 11-06-2006, 12:02 PM   #13
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BMW is such a drama queen. Can we plz just ignore him and get back the issue at hand? Wait...what is that again?
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Unfortunately the issue at hand in this thread would be BMW's ranting, he started the damn thing after all...
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:07 PM   #15
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Unfortunately the issue at hand in this thread would be BMW's ranting, he started the damn thing after all...
I tried to read from the beginning but it started turning foul on the first page. If its all just bmw's rant, then why are so many cellarites paying attention? I say that we all are more intelligent then to be involved in such a pointless petty squabble. Trading insult after insult is really immature and it somewhat dissapoints me that we are so easily captured by bmw's hostile posts. By being so responsive to his posts, we are only encouraging him. For example my brother and I used to have burping contests and when my sis got mad/cried we were only encouraged to burp more, louder and longer. Unfortunatly it has been a long time since my bro and I have had the chance to engage in a serious contest, and I think that I have lost my touch.
That said...
Let me address the question bmw originally psted then:
I would not marry a porn star who is currently working as such, but if they have since left that job, no longer lead a promiscuous life, and respect sex as a demonstration of equal parts emotional love, and physical passion then I would consider them. Of course I would have to find other similarties and love them as a person before I would want to dedicate my love to them. But being a former porn star in of itself is not enough to cause me to disregard them as a partner.
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