Middle East erupts - Page 10

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, not profiling. I've seen quite a few pictures of the remains. The heads are usually more intact than the rest of them.

That's pretty amazing, considering how "intact" the heads must have been before detonating.

Shawnee123 · 08-03-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/m...oto/index.html

"A party where they dressed the cutest baby as a suicide bomber..."

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?

Same thing that's wrong with this guy, I think.

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Same thing that's wrong with this guy, I think.

Moral equivalance? I think not.

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Moral equivalance? I think not.

Really? They were both simply joking.

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 03:56 PM

I weep for the victims of baby brainwashing. These kids all died of liver disease by age three.

BigV · 08-03-2006, 05:46 PM

I'll bite, MaggieL.

Tell me what you think the baby's learning from what you can glean from that picture, please.

Now tell me what you think the two young girls in the previous picture are learning, please.

Now compare those two learning experiences. I will concede that a baby that age in proximity of adults stoopid enough to create such a photo will be surrounded by hate and learn accordingly. But I wasn't hypothesing about the future of the subjects of the pictures, I was talking about what's happening during the snapshot.

Feel free to brandish your "moral equivalence" crutch if you're not afraid to have it kicked out from underneath you. I'll repeat: Both are reprehensible. When you say "but not as bad as this..." you sound like a child justifying their part in some petty quarrel. [whine]But he hit me *first*! waah waah waah...[/whine].

They're **both** fucked up. If you can't acknowledge that, you have earned my disdain. If you can't understand that, you have earned my pity.

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

Tell me what you think the baby's learning from what you can glean from that picture, please.

One word: madrassas.

I spoke of the child's entire trajectory until being issued a real vest. That he (if he is as is implied by the vest, male) will be groomed as a jihadi. doesn't take amazing insight.

I understand your position, I just think you're full of poop. And if you don't think you're leaning hard on "moral equivlance" with this line of yours, you don't earn my pity, because your blindness is wilful.

9th Engineer · 08-03-2006, 08:51 PM

Would I take my child to sign artillery shells Bruce? Not if they were as young as the girls in the photo, I wouldn't ask my children no matter what age. But if I had a 16 or 17 year old that was suffering the same as I was and losing people they cared about, I would just quietly let them do as they wished. Those girls have been raised in a country haunted by bombings and terrorist killings, I'd imagine those girls know exactly what they want done with those shells and arn't afraid to make their sentiments known. Think of what it would be like if New York, Los Angeles, Miami, and other cities in the US were having buses blown up like what happens in Israel? How long do you think it would take the kids in those cities to go from wondering why it was happening, to wondering why people would do that, to hating the people responsible, to wanting them dead.

Can you imagine what it must be like to have to add a talk about "why did those men kill mommy/daddy/my best friend's dad/my best friend's mom" to the list of parental turning points?? I doubt you would give them a lecture on the history of Middle Eastern conflict. "They want us all dead dear" would be just as accurate.

Now, if I had to guess they probably aren't addressing those shells to the Lebonese in general. Israeli children by this point are probably savy enough to know their terrorist organizations by heart.

richlevy · 08-03-2006, 09:29 PM

You know, I did wonder why the hands off attitude towards the Middle East until it hit a flashpoint? Did Iraq use all of our diplomatic resources?

An ABCNEWS video report makes me wonder. Could large numbers of people really want a Mideast conflict and WWIII as a path to Heaven?

Happy Monkey · 08-04-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

You know, I did wonder why the hands off attitude towards the Middle East until it hit a flashpoint? Did Iraq use all of our diplomatic resources?

Our what? What year are you living in, man?

richlevy · 08-11-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Our what? What year are you living in, man?

Apparently the last one for this planet.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-03-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Would I take my child to sign artillery shells Bruce? ~snip

Whoa, man..... BigV asked that question, not me.

9th Engineer · 08-03-2006, 11:21 PM

err, sorry about that little mixup

MaggieL · 08-04-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

But if I had a 16 or 17 year old that was suffering the same as I was and losing people they cared about, I would just quietly let them do as they wished.

Considering that within a year they might be *firing* those shells.

08-03-2006, 03:56 PM	#6
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	I weep for the victims of baby brainwashing. These kids all died of liver disease by age three. Attached Images

08-03-2006, 05:46 PM	#7
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I'll bite, MaggieL. Tell me what you think the baby's learning from what you can glean from that picture, please. Now tell me what you think the two young girls in the previous picture are learning, please. Now compare those two learning experiences. I will concede that a baby that age in proximity of adults stoopid enough to create such a photo will be surrounded by hate and learn accordingly. But I wasn't hypothesing about the future of the subjects of the pictures, I was talking about what's happening during the snapshot. Feel free to brandish your "moral equivalence" crutch if you're not afraid to have it kicked out from underneath you. I'll repeat: Both are reprehensible. When you say "but not as bad as this..." you sound like a child justifying their part in some petty quarrel. [whine]But he hit me first! waah waah waah...[/whine]. They're both fucked up. If you can't acknowledge that, you have earned my disdain. If you can't understand that, you have earned my pity. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-03-2006, 08:51 PM	#9
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Would I take my child to sign artillery shells Bruce? Not if they were as young as the girls in the photo, I wouldn't ask my children no matter what age. But if I had a 16 or 17 year old that was suffering the same as I was and losing people they cared about, I would just quietly let them do as they wished. Those girls have been raised in a country haunted by bombings and terrorist killings, I'd imagine those girls know exactly what they want done with those shells and arn't afraid to make their sentiments known. Think of what it would be like if New York, Los Angeles, Miami, and other cities in the US were having buses blown up like what happens in Israel? How long do you think it would take the kids in those cities to go from wondering why it was happening, to wondering why people would do that, to hating the people responsible, to wanting them dead. Can you imagine what it must be like to have to add a talk about "why did those men kill mommy/daddy/my best friend's dad/my best friend's mom" to the list of parental turning points?? I doubt you would give them a lecture on the history of Middle Eastern conflict. "They want us all dead dear" would be just as accurate. Now, if I had to guess they probably aren't addressing those shells to the Lebonese in general. Israeli children by this point are probably savy enough to know their terrorist organizations by heart. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

08-03-2006, 09:29 PM	#10
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	You know, I did wonder why the hands off attitude towards the Middle East until it hit a flashpoint? Did Iraq use all of our diplomatic resources? An ABCNEWS video report makes me wonder. Could large numbers of people really want a Mideast conflict and WWIII as a path to Heaven? __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama Last edited by richlevy; 08-03-2006 at 09:32 PM.

08-03-2006, 11:21 PM	#14
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	err, sorry about that little mixup __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

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