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Old 09-01-2017, 08:09 AM   #1
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policies which guarantee that billions more people will suffer from increasingly more severe climate disasters, including being *permanently* displaced by rising sea levels, and slowly *starving* as the temperate crop-bearing regions move into areas with inadequate soil fertility.
There isn't scientific consensus on this. In fact science says the opposite about crop-bearing. For example, science tells us that the earth is much "greener" as a result of more concentrated CO2 levels. Plants love it.

Humankind is observably tremendously better off today than it ever has been, after warming. And, there is no reason to believe that the science that advanced this knowledge about warming will suddenly stop and cower in the face of addressing it. At least one Nobel prize winner has advanced a simple, obvious idea about how to improve sea levels... seed clouds over Antarctica.

So, now, it's interesting; you have an apocalyptic prediction about the end of humanity with little scientific basis (that is the history of humankind BTW, we always predict apocalypse), and you are mad at the Christians for not believing in it and thus not behaving in the way that you approve of.

That is *exactly* how they feel about you not believing their apocalyptic predictions...!

(Now I await an explosion of anger at the challenge of your obviously correct world view, please don't disappoint.)


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Old 09-01-2017, 10:32 AM   #2
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"Libertarianism was the other one I fell for..."

One, idealistic, version, no doubt.

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"it's so simple and clean."

My particular version is 'simple and clean': Mind your own goddamned business and keep your fuckin' hands to yourself...or else. If folks did this, 99% of all problems would evaporate, but folks don't and won't, not cuz "humans are not simple and clean" but cuz some humans are mercenary motherfuckers who sell snake oil (products, services, and 'philosophies'). This little, always present, segment of any population you care to name works hard to twist self-interest into service to 'the other' (quietly benefiting from all that 'altruism'). Part and parcel to this 'service' is makin' the other guy (the one who doesn't buy the snake oil) toe the line (one for all, pal, one for all.).

Of course, this twisting of a normal and natural self-interest takes generations, but -- glory! glory! -- the 'good work', the 'holy communitarian project' is almost done...pretty much: up is down, right is wrong, in is out, and reason is in the hospice, pukin' blood and dictatin' its last will and testement.

The 'We' ascends while the 'I' is run outta town in disgrace.

Too bad (for you) the new Boss is just as bad as the old one.

Kumbaya.

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Climate change happens.

Climate change driven by human industry does not.
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Old 09-01-2017, 02:49 PM   #3
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I've never used the feature where you can block, or ignore an aggressive user who singles you out for personal attacks. But I find it ironic that the owner of the site has unwittingly launched a crusade to drive away users. This is the third of fourth time you've done this. Including sending aggressive messages to my personal phone. ƒuck off, loser.
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:31 PM   #4
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This is my bishop, the man who confirmed my daughter, protesting against Nazis in Charlottesville the morning another protester in the same town got killed when she was run down by one.
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See the black lives matter signs?

Confusing. I know. Good people are Christians too.
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