Aircraft - Page 6

xoxoxoBruce · 01-10-2016, 10:38 PM

They just have to come to the Cellar archives.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-11-2016, 06:14 PM

Nice cut-away of the Gee Bee R-2.

BigV · 01-12-2016, 12:41 AM

Love it!

Carruthers · 01-12-2016, 04:01 AM

Given that the pilot would have such a poor view of the runway, I bet landings were tricky to say the least!
How on earth would you manage a final approach and landing?
Side slip it in and kick it straight at the last moment?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-12-2016, 07:55 AM

It's an extremely hard to fly plane, but it was fast and could do maneuvers nobody else could, which is why it won races. One guy who actually flew one said todays high tech fighter pilots would take to it right away. And yes, one pilot was killed when he botched the landing.

Gravdigr · 01-13-2016, 02:33 PM

busterb · 01-13-2016, 07:10 PM

Well he hit the center line. WTF are they pulling down on wings for? Relive stress?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-13-2016, 08:05 PM

With just center wheels, when he stops the plane will tip one way or the other. They're pulling down the high side to lift the low side wing enough to deploy the outrigger dollies on the wing.

busterb · 01-13-2016, 09:22 PM

Hell I knew that

BigV · 01-13-2016, 09:33 PM

so. to take off it starts with the dollies and then ejects them when airborne?

how extravagantly impractical

xoxoxoBruce · 01-13-2016, 09:43 PM

They are reused when the plane comes back, and if it doesn't come back, it won't need them. Having retractable wheels on the wings would be too heavy, and fixed wheels too much drag, so there isn't really an alternative.

Pamela · 01-14-2016, 02:28 PM

more here

xoxoxoBruce · 01-14-2016, 10:52 PM

The Granville Brothers (post77) built a race car too.

Carruthers · 01-15-2016, 05:08 AM

Thanks for posting the U2 video, Grav.

I suppose that it's human nature, up to a point, to be curious about things that you're not supposed to know about. For that reason the U2 has always been a source of considerable interest.

Strange to relate, but I have here a facsimile copy of the pilot's notes for the U2. A little light reading, you understand.

U-2 Flight Manual: Models U-2C and U-2F Aircraft

Carruthers · 01-15-2016, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

so. to take off it starts with the dollies and then ejects them when airborne?

how extravagantly impractical

Gravity assists, except when....

There's nothing worse than a hung pogo.

Scanned from the above mentioned manual.

01-10-2016, 10:38 PM	#76
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They just have to come to the Cellar archives. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-11-2016, 06:14 PM	#77
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nice cut-away of the Gee Bee R-2. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-12-2016, 12:41 AM	#78
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Love it! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-12-2016, 04:01 AM	#79
Carruthers Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire UK Posts: 4,059	Given that the pilot would have such a poor view of the runway, I bet landings were tricky to say the least! How on earth would you manage a final approach and landing? Side slip it in and kick it straight at the last moment? __________________ Last edited by Carruthers; 01-12-2016 at 04:30 AM.

01-12-2016, 07:55 AM	#80
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's an extremely hard to fly plane, but it was fast and could do maneuvers nobody else could, which is why it won races. One guy who actually flew one said todays high tech fighter pilots would take to it right away. And yes, one pilot was killed when he botched the landing. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-13-2016, 02:33 PM	#81
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01-13-2016, 07:10 PM	#82
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Well he hit the center line. WTF are they pulling down on wings for? Relive stress? __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

01-13-2016, 08:05 PM	#83
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	With just center wheels, when he stops the plane will tip one way or the other. They're pulling down the high side to lift the low side wing enough to deploy the outrigger dollies on the wing. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-13-2016, 09:22 PM	#84
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Hell I knew that __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

01-13-2016, 09:33 PM	#85
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	so. to take off it starts with the dollies and then ejects them when airborne? how extravagantly impractical __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-13-2016, 09:43 PM	#86
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They are reused when the plane comes back, and if it doesn't come back, it won't need them. Having retractable wheels on the wings would be too heavy, and fixed wheels too much drag, so there isn't really an alternative. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-14-2016, 02:28 PM	#87
Pamela Deplorable Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 767	more here Attached Images

01-14-2016, 10:52 PM	#88
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The Granville Brothers (post77) built a race car too. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-15-2016, 05:08 AM	#89
Carruthers Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire UK Posts: 4,059	Thanks for posting the U2 video, Grav. I suppose that it's human nature, up to a point, to be curious about things that you're not supposed to know about. For that reason the U2 has always been a source of considerable interest. Strange to relate, but I have here a facsimile copy of the pilot's notes for the U2. A little light reading, you understand. U-2 Flight Manual: Models U-2C and U-2F Aircraft __________________ Last edited by Carruthers; 01-15-2016 at 05:48 AM.

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