Please to explain for the hard of understanding...

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by glatt

People doing open carry are attention whores.

Originally Posted by glatt

Of course. I made a very blanket statement that is easily proven wrong with any number of examples.

However, there is much truth in it.

IYHO, how much? To what percentage of people who open carry do you attribute attention seeking as the predominant reason rather than any other reason? No need to be precise, perhaps you could round it off to the nearest 25% for us.

[BigV]

I'd say 100%.

If the purpose of open carry isn't to be seen carrying a gun, they're doing it, whatever the hell they're doing, completely wrong. Any other motivation would call for concealed carry, or unarmed. Who "accidentally" straps on their firearm when leaving the house? The very idea is to draw attention to the fact that they're armed.

[sexobon]

The term attention whoring has a very different connotation from making being armed obvious as a deterrent. Do you label all uniformed (open carrying) police officers attention whores?

[footfootfoot]

Maybe for you city dwellars open carry =attention whoredom, but in other locales, it it the norm and you need special permission to carry concealed. That means if you want to go to the firing range or a competition, or take your gun to a gunsmith you have to open carry.

The state gun laws and regional lifestyles make such blanket statements trollish at best.

[glatt]

I'm not talking about cops or about hunters or people transporting their guns from point A to point B. I'm talking about people who strap a gun to their hip to go run errands. They are looking to be noticed. That's the definition of attention whore.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by sexobon

The term attention whoring has a very different connotation from making being armed obvious as a deterrent. Do you label all uniformed (open carrying) police officers attention whores?

it's unfortunate that you're bothered by the term...

I consider open carry to be a deliberate, conspicuous, intentional, obvious act specifically designed to draw the attention of all those around them, perhaps in the hope of "deterrence", but nonetheless to be noticed. That's the attention part. As for whoring, I am reminded of the old joke with punchline, "...we've already established what kind of woman you are, now we're just negotiating the price." They're trying really hard to be noticed. They'd consider it a failure if I didn't notice.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That's because you didn't grow up in a time and place where people carried guns when they had a use for them. So when to see someone with a gun shocks you and rattles your sense of order.

[BigV]

Right.

The times, the standards of where I live here and now do not include very many open carries. Shock, rattle? *shrug*, it depends on the person, on the circumstances. But it's certainly the case that they attract attention, in my current locale. Back in the day, ... that was back in the day.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by glatt

I'm not talking about cops or about hunters or people transporting their guns from point A to point B. I'm talking about people who strap a gun to their hip to go run errands. They are looking to be noticed. That's the definition of attention whore.

But that didn't stop you from making a blanket statement. Footfootfoot's characterization nailed your motive.

Originally Posted by BigV

... I consider open carry to be a deliberate, conspicuous, intentional, obvious act specifically designed to draw the attention of all those around them, perhaps in the hope of "deterrence", but nonetheless to be noticed. That's the attention part. As for whoring, I am reminded of the old joke with punchline, "...we've already established what kind of woman you are, now we're just negotiating the price." They're trying really hard to be noticed. They'd consider it a failure if I didn't notice.

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[xoxoxoBruce]

Yes shock and rattle, so much so you immediately sort the person into perp or attention whore, because they couldn't possibly have a legitimate reason to do it.

[footfootfoot]

Both Glatt and V are city folks. Part of my everyday reality is farm vehicles running up and down main street and the smell of manure in the air. A person with a gun on their hip wouldn't be that out of place apart from NYS doesn't have open carry, but 5 miles away in Vermont, you can uy a handgun with a driver's license.

It's VERY rural here.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by sexobon

But that didn't stop you from making a blanket statement. Footfootfoot's characterization nailed your motive.



The above announcement was brought to you by the TW Academy of Personal Definitions [a subsidiary of Narrow Minded Inc.].

LMAO

[Aliantha]

I know I'm not a US citizen and things are different here, but I was raised in a family where rural life was pretty entrenched. My father owned a number of guns, as did/do a number of other relatives. I have learned to fire and care for pretty much all of them and have been taught to have respect for them. I don't fear guns is what I'm trying to demonstrate.

Even if the laws here in Australia were similar to those in the US in that a majority of people owned firearms, I still would think it strange for someone to feel the need to be armed when they go to the shops to get milk and bread. Yes I have been part of communities where guns are used almost daily as a means to hunt food for animals and as protection from things like deadly snakes etc, so yes, I've travelled in vehicles where there's a gun behind the seat at all times, and everyone knows where it is, and how to use it in case of emergency. Usually a shot gun with a range of ammunition to suit the purpose.

I would still think it was odd if someone took that gun out of the truck and felt the need to walk down the street with it.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Apparently another book on their site is:

So, I went looking for a write up of the book and found this:

And at the White Feather Press site they describe it:

I don't even know where to start with that...

Originally Posted by DanaC

Hmmmm....slightly mollified by the fact that he also wrote a book called: How to Raise Righteous and Rowdy Daughters!

I think if the sort of people who have kids and want to raise those sorts of kids, need a book to tell them how to raise those sorts of kids, they probably wouldn't want those sorts of kids anyway...would they?

[BigV]

Http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...40805?irpc=932

What do think about this guy? He fits my definition of attention whore.