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UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
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You have to admit, there's a difference between trying to talk some number of black voters into voting for a white guy (they can only gain, if incrementally,) and expecting racist white voters to vote for a black woman (they can lose their existing base, big time.) The GOP just knows their members.
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Today is the day... SNAP feels the brunt of the true spirit and intent of the GOP.
The average monthly benefit per household last year was $278. A family of 4 will receive $36 less in Food Stamps each month due to this cut, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The government recognizes that recipients previously received enough food stamps for only the first 27 days of the month. Now, they will run short after the first 3 weeks each month. Stateline Jake Grovum 11/1/13 How Food Stamp Cuts Affect Your State Quote:
which shows each state's numbers of children and elderly affected by the GOP intransigence. The GOP is proposing an additional $40,000,000,000 ($40 billion) cuts over the next 10 years. ... HAPPY THANKSGIVING and MERRY CHRISTMAS too... Last edited by Lamplighter; 11-01-2013 at 09:42 AM. |
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#153 |
Radical Centrist
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Without looking it up somewhere, I'd guess the following... not in any particular order.
Rural populations that depended on the extremely depressed timber industry Rural coastal populations that rely on the fishing industry Rural coastal populations that rely on the tourist industry ... all coastal business is very cyclic and/or has suffered in recent years. Native Americans (reservations) - but this may be changing with the new gambling casino incomes Oregon has a fairly liberal attitude towards the homeless, but I'd be surprised if that is a truly a significant number - even tho we know other states do put a small number of homeless or otherwise disabled people on buses with one-way tickets to PDX. Otherwise, we also know that Portland is midway between Seattle and California, and has mild winters so the homeless/unemployed are our "rain birds" - as opposed to our better off "snow birds" that travel south over the winter. Beyond that, I'd look at just the general unemployment in PDX as a result of loss of jobs in manufacturing as the major group. Last edited by Lamplighter; 11-01-2013 at 10:58 AM. |
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The GOP has just learned the hard way that what goes around comes around.
The GOP is resorting to name-calling... but Reid has just told the GOP: GFYS. Harry Reid gave plenty of warning back when Ted Cruz made his threat of "filibuster vs government shut down". Harry Reid also gave warning days ago when Lindsey Graham made his threat of stopping all Senate approvals for "judgeships vs Benghazi" Quote:
Eventually, they will succeed at something, and round and round we will go. |
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Старый сержант
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Very generous of you to say that the GOP has learned something.
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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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Harry Reid is still an ass. This is not a good thing for the country. It makes those currently in power,and their supporters happy. I doubt they will agree when the shoe is on the other foot... Time will tell.
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I've read that historically, the dear, upstanding, GOP Vice President Richard Nixon tried to do the same thing (twice), but Senate members didn't let him get away with it. But seriously, aside from name-calling, what would you have Reid do ? This came directly from the tactics of current several GOP senators, ...and specifically from one, [R-SC] Lindsay Graham, who openly and publicly promised to filibuster all nominees, regardless of the person or the position until he got his way on a completely unrelated political issue (Benghazi). |
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King Of Wishful Thinking
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...cloture-votes/ This was from 3 1/2 years ago. http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/03/02...f-filibusters/ A less partisan and more up to date viewpoint, but with less information about the structure of Congress at the time. http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/ref...tureCounts.htm There is a point at which reasoned opposition becomes an attempt at nullification. On one hand the Republicans complain about being weak in foreign affairs and on the other hand they attempt to weaken him domestically. They complain about his lack of accomplishments domestically. Well, the good news is that part of that whole lack of accomplishments domestically is now being handled. It will still end up in a gerrymandered House, but there will now be actual votes on issues and voters can see where their senators stack up. I'd love to hear what Ann Coulter is saying about this. When the Democrats used it, the partisan princess was all about how the filibuster had no Constitutional basis. Did she stay consistent or did she backpeddle her big ass?
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The GOP has just discovered the Second Law of Thermodynamics
NY Times CARL HULSE December 13, 2013 Boehner’s Jabs at Activist Right Show G.O.P. Shift Quote:
When the Speaker of the House appoints someone to a Committee, don't criticize the work of that person coming out of that Committee. To do so is just politically dumb ! ![]() |
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The 3rd WOW in one week !
Democrats have won 5 top elected positions in Virginia... WOW ! Quote:
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Chris Christie has so far garnered something of an amusing reputation in the media
... at least for a GOP governor and presidential hopeful. But New Jersey is New Jersey, and politics there are brutal. There are several examples in Christie's past that show how he operates ...and here is one more. Wall Street Journal Ted Mann And Heather Haddon 1/8/13 Christie Aide: 'Time for Some Traffic Problems' Quote:
But Christie's public ridicule of accusations that his "staff were not involved" actually shows how he actually operates ... 'support me or suffer the wrath' |
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This controversy was exposed by the NY Times about 1 month ago. Intentional harm to Ft Lee traffic was a front page story that also included other events. For example, a NJ State Republican Senator, who did not say something good enough about Christie, suddenly found his legislation blocked including a judge sponsorship. Another NJ Congressman said some things good and bad about Christie. Gov Christie is keenly and daily aware of what others say. And what is happening in his administration. So this Congressman, who was up for a Judgeship, immediately found himself struck from the list. And at least two of his relatives who do business with or work for the state had their jobs immediately terminated that week.
Can we attribute any of this to Christie? No. The only reason this NY Times article was ignored: no smoking gun. But that article inspired the legislature to investigate. An NJ Congressional investigation discovered e-mails that confirm what the NY Times reported a month and ago and that the NJ Governor publicly denied back then. A bully will be vindictive to the weak. And will make a big deal about working with others he cannot bully. Christie does this well because, as noted previously, he is a shrewd politician. Shrewd does not mean honest or having political integrity. It only says he is excellent at manipulating most of us. Did he make a mistake? Normally a politician will reject these accusations with a few comments and little fanfare. Instead, Christie did a 2 hour press conference. I remember previous politicians spending so much time denying an accusation: ie Nixon and Watergate. Was that overly long press conference harmful. Had it been another politician, I would have called it a major mistake. But this is Christie. Interesting is if so much time in denial results in a state wide pardon or a sudden suspicion of a man who has a bully's history. |
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You gotta have a program to know the players....
USA Today Bob Jordan, Asbury Park (N.J.) January 10, 2014 Some access lanes from Fort Lee, N.J., to the George Washington Bridge were closed for 4 days in early September. Quote:
http://www.app.com/assets/pdf/B3217417110.PDF ... and here is one of the soon-to-be-famous emails: BUT, the general rumor is that this email was entirely "false indignation", and intended to ultimately be made public as Foye's own defense from the brewing storm. |
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