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Old 11-10-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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I just wonder if there's not more to this than what we're being told. The FBI outs this guy, so he has to resign right after the election? It all seems very Orwellian to me.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:09 PM   #2
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I just wonder if there's not more to this than what we're being told. The FBI outs this guy, so he has to resign right after the election? It all seems very Orwellian to me.
Orwellian or Pussy Galore?

Men are slaves to sex. It's probably just that.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:16 PM   #3
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:09 PM   #4
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The issue is that he slept with the journalist co-authoring a biography of him. who is being accused of trying to illegally access his email. That is a HUGE national security issue - and brings shame or rage to many in the intel community, because affairs are a BIG TIME no-no when you could be in a position to be blackmailed by Bad Guys.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:21 PM   #5
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The issue is that he slept with the journalist co-authoring a biography of him. who is being accused of trying to illegally access his email. That is a HUGE national security issue - and brings shame or rage to many in the intel community, because affairs are a BIG TIME no-no when you could be in a position to be blackmailed by Bad Guys.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:37 PM   #6
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I thought there might me more to it than just "girl meets boy." Girl meets boy who just happens to be head of the CIA and attempts hacking into his e-mail would be rather disturbing to the FBI and the rest. Without the e-mail thing, I bet the affair would have continued on the qt and Patraeus would still be head of the CIA. What on earth was that woman thinking?
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:21 PM   #7
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We can't go on together
With suspicious emails
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious emails...
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:47 PM   #8
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Patraeus surely ended the military careers; thus, livelihoods of subordinates who were otherwise good soldiers, for the same reason that he only had to resign from a second career. If his extramarital affair occurred while he was on active duty, they should administratively move his retirement date back to that time, reduce his retirement pay accordingly, rescind his Honorable Discharge and give him a General Discharge, Under Other Than Honorable Conditions since that is most likely what he did to others.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:08 PM   #9
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Somewhere on here I posted a video fo the denouement of Tootsie. It fits here as well.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:52 PM   #10
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I still remember Gingrich at Clinton's impeachment criticizing his affair while conducting his own. Of course Newt now parses this to explain that he was all about the perjury.



BTW, McCain had his own marital issues, and he also has a pretty solid reputation. Maybe we should simply have the FBI vet a pool of mistresses for high ranking members of the three branches of government.

Maybe foot can volunteer to be Elizabeth Warren's boy toy.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:56 AM   #11
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yeah, what Sam said. What really bothers me is these people really didn't think these emails would get out into the public? And they are spies or spy-ish?

stupidstupidstupidstupidstupid!

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:00 AM   #12
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"Judiciously"? Screw that. Try freely, enthusiastically and often!
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:34 AM   #13
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I don't feel sorry for either one of them. Esp. Jill Kelley.

TW- how can you say she's done nothing wrong? She's 3.6 million in debt! she created a charity and then looted it! She used her big-guy connections to try to get her psycho nut job twin sister custody and even the judge knew better. She's done some very, very wrong things. Why isn't her mercedes repossessed? Why is she still living in her 1.5 mil dollar home when any ordinary person would be out on their ass by now?

And Paula? Ok, she fell in love with the guy-when I look at pics of the two of them I can totally see it - she's always looking at him with goo-goo eyes. So. That happens. But her 14 year old self that had to harass a perceived threat (Jill) is laughable in a woman so utterly accomplished as she. And to use Email intimidation tactics? Any normal person would've put on her astronaut underwear, driven for 19 hours straight, put on a wig and black trench coat an confronted her in person!

then again, maybe I just have a heart of stone. A gargoyle heart. Like a doll's eye....black and rolling....no, wait....wrong movie.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #14
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TW- how can you say she's done nothing wrong?
Did she have an affair with Petraeus? That was the context. Other stuff is peripheral fodder that I will ignore until the hard facts are being reported. These peripheral stories are quite damning. But remain rumors. I don't pay attention to Entertainment Today or TMZ. Their stories, if true, will eventually be reported by hard news sources. And are unrelated to the CIA, Afghanistan, and other significantly more important issues.

It is a fact that many if not most charities are more likely profit centers for their administrators. What charitywatch.org was created to expose. These charities work because so many decide emotinally. She is prettty. She looks expensive. She sounds honest. So she must be. It amazes me that the majority are that gullible. Making fraud (she is accused of) so easy and routine.

She is far from being the only one doing this stuff. But my comments were not about routine fraud. My comments were about how this Petraeus affair is just throwing so many uninvolved third parties into a spotlight.

I'll wait for Bob Woodward to write the book. Right now, it sounds like a top selling fictional scandel. Almost nobody could write this stuff.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:05 PM   #15
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I have a 17 year old daughter whose high school drama(s) reads much like this whole 'affair'.

Not to mention, half of Washington is sleeping with someone they're not married to...so this particular incident is newsworthy why?
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