"She", not "he", guys

[Sundae]

No necessarily germane to this discussion, but prompted by CW's excellent post above.

We had a child at my school with Klinefelter syndrome (XXY syndrome). This was apparent in some of the classic symptoms of learning difficulties, poor speech and motor control and coordination. But it also meant that when he reached puberty he might develop female sexual characteristics, for example growing breasts.

All we could offer him at our school was meeting his Special Educational Needs. He's going to need more specific help in the future.
"Treatment may include hormone therapy, cosmetic surgery, speech therapy and counselling."

[henry quirk]

Take a look at the words under Ibby's name in any post: "She", not "he", guys.

You may take this as 'request'...I don't.

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Indeed: I introduced 'cock', but it has not been my focus.

My focus is on the reality of a chromosome and what follows or extends from that chromosome.

What follows or extends from the source are characteristics...remove the characteristics (by surgery, for example) and the source remains (you can stick a rod into a tail -- to make it useful as a leg -- and it's still a tail; you can remove the tail and the fact that the animal is genetically meant to have one remains).

This is my point, my focus.

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No doubt 'he' is used in many ways, but, what is the primary definition and reason for 'he'? To signify 'male' (a state dictated by a chromosome).

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When a person says, 'I am *transgendered', why should I 'not' accept that self-assessment? And, no, taking his word for it -- "I am a transgendered woman" -- is not the equivalent of agreeing to call 'he' 'she'. Therefore I rely on the testimony of the person in question, not shifty cultural tripe.

If he lies then, shame on him.

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Please, Cyber, I'm not talking about 'manhood' as cultural artifact...I'm talking about maleness a physical reality sourced in the physical.

I know I can shorthand myself from time to time, but my words have been clear throughout, so -- even with shorthanding -- my meanings and intent are clear.

None of you is stupid, so I assume (especially in the case of V) that time worn strategy of 'what's that you say?' (pretended misunderstanding so as to distract and wear down the offender) is being deployed (and has been for much of this thread). Pick at nits and -- it is hoped -- the offender will just 'accept' and move on.

Good luck with that.

Lots of, as I say, shifty definitions are thrown about as though -- again -- believing something or saying it enough times negates what's real.

It doesn't.






*meaning 'I feel like the other sex' (and, perhaps, have altered myself to make flesh agree with sentiment)...a statement of self-assessment that any one is welcome to make...however, I'm not obligated to observe that assessment by accepting a redefining of 'she' to include XY.


'nuff said till tomorrow.