Wall Street Protests

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Does this mean we can start calling the protesters "Nazi's" and "Racist"?

We can certainly call the tea baggers that. They are infamous for their use of racial epitaphs.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by SamIam

We can certainly call the tea baggers that. They are infamous for their use of racial epitaphs.

Wow, really? And those liberals who now have power didn't say that about Bush? You need a link? 8 years of that shit.

Hi Kettle....

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Wow, really? And those liberals who now have power didn't say that about Bush? You need a link? 8 years of that shit.

Hi Kettle....

I must say that I consider Bush racist - then and now. However, I don't recall any incidents where a group of liberals got together in Congress and disrupted proceedings with racist taunts. But that's OK on the link.

[TheMercenary]

Funny,

Occupy Wall Street Protests Spread Across the Country With No Unified Message


http://abcnews.go.com/US/occupy-wall...ry?id=14696466

[gvidas]

The exciting thing about these protests, I think, is only just starting: the part where economists and philosophers and social scientists start to get involved. So many political conversations dead end with "well, that could never happen in today's political climate."

This might be a chance to re-evaluate what the political climate really is; to start with the possibilities of human reality, and then work out how to make it a political reality.

Slavoj Zizek at OWS

Don't fall in love with yourselves, with the nice time we are having here. Carnivals come cheap—the true test of their worth is what remains the day after, how our normal daily life will be changed. Fall in love with hard and patient work—we are the beginning, not the end. Our basic message is: the taboo is broken, we do not live in the best possible world, we are allowed and obliged even to think about alternatives.[...]

In mid-April 2011, the media reported that Chinese government has prohibited showing on TV and in theatres films which deal with time travel and alternate history, with the argument that such stories introduce frivolity into serious historical matters—even the fictional escape into alternate reality is considered too dangerous. We in the liberal West do not need such an explicit prohibition: ideology exerts enough material power to prevent alternate history narratives being taken with a minimum of seriousness. It is easy for us to imagine the end of the world—see numerous apocalyptic films -, but not end of capitalism.

In an old joke from the defunct German Democratic Republic, a German worker gets a job in Siberia; aware of how all mail will be read by censors, he tells his friends: “Let's establish a code: if a letter you will get from me is written in ordinary blue ink, it is true; if it is written in red ink, it is false.” After a month, his friends get the first letter written in blue ink: “Everything is wonderful here: stores are full, food is abundant, apartments are large and properly heated, movie theatres show films from the West, there are many beautiful girls ready for an affair—the only thing unavailable is red ink.” And is this not our situation till now? We have all the freedoms one wants—the only thing missing is the red ink: we feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom. What this lack of red ink means is that, today, all the main terms we use to designate the present conflict—'war on terror,' "democracy and freedom,' 'human rights,' etc—are FALSE terms, mystifying our perception of the situation instead of allowing us to think it. You, here, you are giving to all of us red ink.

[Trilby]

SamIam - I ask once again: why dost thou persist in thy folly?

[ZenGum]

Merc does seem terribly disappointed that there haven't been any actual riots yet. He has to keep going back to the WTO ones.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Merc does seem terribly disappointed that there haven't been any actual riots yet. He has to keep going back to the WTO ones.

Naw.... I just recognize that they have their weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

I still would love to see them shut Wall Street for a week and see who suffers first. The protesters or those who work on Wall Street?

[Trilby]

CUTE!

[ZenGum]

Indifference is a total deregard - the definition of hate - towards your charges.

Indifference and hate are very different.

[tw]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Indifference and hate are very different.

Not when you are responsible for the resulting destruction due to indifference.

You could replace the word hate with contempt. Both words are describing the same attitude.

GM's contempt for their customers and products resulted in products that one would only sell to customers they had no respect for. Customers to GM were an evil necessity because only profits were important.

Occupy 'X' Street is the people finally getting angry at a hatred traceable what is taught in business schools. Self serving profits are more important than the customer, the nation, mankind, and the real purpose of productive businesses.

Good reason why business schools so hate Deming. Deming defined the true purpose of businesses. Business schools hate a philosophy where the product and customers are more important than the wealth of an elitist manager.

Welcome to the result of, "If we enrich the richest, than all will have jobs." So many have read the warnings here long ago. Tax cuts and other money games for the rich historically create job losses. Almost ten years of tax cuts and other money games created what? 9% unemployment that could have easily become 40% unemployment.

The richest and their ‘paid for’ political cronies demonstrate what can only be called hate for the rest of America. If they were not hateful, then they would be admitting their 'trickle down economics' was a sham to enrich the richest at the expense of all others. The fact that they still preach Limbaugh spin and money game solutions can only be attributed to hate inspired by contempt. Same hate that empowered Madoff, Skilling, Lay, Fiorina, Nardelli, Nasser, Kozlowski, Akers, Wagoner, and a long list of other enemies of the people.

You may not consider it hate. But if these were decent people, then so many Americans would not have suffered so much at their expense. They did so with ruthlessness that can only exist with hate.

When you are responsible, an indifference comes only from a hate of your charges.

[Trilby]

hate and love are two different sides of the same coin.

Indifference is a dollar bill. With a corner ripped off.

[TheMercenary]

[TheMercenary]

I have a better plan....

All corps should lay off all their workers for one month without pay and shut their doors and see if they are worthy of any part of this process. If they are so evil they should just shut their doors and shut off the lights.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I have a better plan....

How would that help? Whats the point?