Carmakers Back Strict New Rules for Gas Mileage

[Undertoad]

It turns out they thought of that, and have some sort of formula worked out that includes other engines. But they're not telling us what the formula is:

Over all, the new standards will require a 54.5 miles per gallon corporate average for 2025. That standard will be made more easily achievable by credits that automakers can earn by producing battery-powered vehicles, hybrids and alternative-fuel models. Details of how the credits will work have not yet been made public.

The devil's in those Details because the mix of different kinds of engines is going to get crazy. How do you account for things like the Volt, which runs on battery but switches to gas if the battery runs out? What if the Volt was Flex fuel? Shit's gonna get weird.

Every innovative car maker should have three different maps of their future worked out. One plan for cheap petroleum, one plan for expensive petroleum, and one plan for no petroleum.

[Griff]

I miss having a good pickup. I inherited my Dad's POS GMC and it hemorrhages money even as it gets little use due to horrifying mileage. I want a small 4wd with a modern 4 cyl or hybrid or electric. I had an old Nissan Frontier 4x which Flint refuses to replace. Is it too much to ask that car companies start making a small minimalist truck again? No power anything no AC no nothing...

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Griff

No power anything no AC no nothing...

Our car has cranks to roll up the windows. It was unusual when we got it that way in the mid 90s (on purpose.) Now it's a delightful novelty for all the kids we give rides to in car pools. Not one of them has ever seen one before. They love them. Can you buy a new motor vehicle in the USA with window cranks instead of buttons? I don't think it's even an option any more.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by glatt

Our car has cranks to roll up the windows. It was unusual when we got it that way in the mid 90s (on purpose.) Now it's a delightful novelty for all the kids we give rides to in car pools. Not one of them has ever seen one before. They love them. Can you buy a new motor vehicle in the USA with window cranks instead of buttons? I don't think it's even an option any more.

My 2003 Civic has window cranks. 2004 was the last year of that style before the radical redesign, and no more window cranks. Mine is the newest car I've seen with window cranks lol