Sonic CC Machines

Flint · 05-06-2011, 02:08 PM

The card scanners at Sonic prompt:

"Do you know your PIN?"

What if you answered no???

Griff · 05-06-2011, 02:11 PM

Lower risk of heart disease?

infinite monkey · 05-06-2011, 02:20 PM

What the fuck are you talking about? The hedgehog?????

Ibby · 05-06-2011, 02:33 PM

The drive-up fast-food joint I reckon.

Gravdigr · 05-06-2011, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

What the fuck are you talking about? The hedgehog?????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

The drive-up fast-food joint I reckon.

infinite monkey · 05-06-2011, 03:02 PM

OH, and CC is credit card.

We had a Sonic for like a year, then it just *poof* went out of business. I never did eat there.

Undertoad · 05-06-2011, 03:16 PM

If you park close enough to the menu thingie to run your card, then the person who comes to give you food can't reach your window.

Gravdigr · 05-06-2011, 04:00 PM

And it's more like a not-so-fast food joint.

BigV · 05-06-2011, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

The card scanners at Sonic prompt:

"Do you know your PIN?"

What if you answered no???

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

zippyt · 05-06-2011, 04:31 PM

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

and they come out Fingerprint you , Draw Blood , snip hair and Photograph you for Identity purposes

Flint · 05-06-2011, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

The card scanners at Sonic prompt:

"Do you know your PIN?"

What if you answered no???

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

It is the wording/intent of the question that confuses me. If I don't know the PIN of the card I am running, then it isn't my card. It must be a stolen card. Running it as credit, without (I assume) even bothering to a check photo ID... how is that right? It appears that they are encouraging people to make fraudulent purchases.

If you don't know the PIN, they should call the police.

Pico and ME · 05-06-2011, 04:49 PM

It should probably ask, then, "Do you remember your PIN?"

BigV · 05-06-2011, 05:16 PM

I have made numerous transactions with my plastic that did not require a signature or a PIN.

It is easy to make fraudulent purchases in this way.

I don't see the wording of this prompt as encouraging people to make fraudulent purchases. I see it as the first step in a decision tree of the payment processing system to determine how to process the payment. the wording could be different--in fact, when I bought groceries at the store this morning, the first prompt I saw was (words to the effect of): Credit / Debit? This is the same question essentially. I think the wording of the Sonic initial prompt was chosen for two reasons. 1 -- it is more conversational than credit/debit. and 2 -- it does seem to bias the transaction toward PIN/debit usage. Otherwise, if they're able to process it as a credit without a signature, why wouldn't they? and just skip the whole extra debit/pin trouble. I think they DON'T do this for two reasons. I think they would want to use the least expensive transaction model, and I think this is the debit transaction, and I think they'd want to make your shopping experience at Sonic as easy and uncomplicated as possible, therefore why bother you with a signature if they don't have to.

my $0.02.

ZenGum · 05-06-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyt

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

and they come out Fingerprint you , Draw Blood , snip hair and Photograph you for Identity purposes, wrap you in a body bag, and bury you at sea. Photos will not be published.

Tell the full story, Zip.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 07:06 PM

I maintain that it would be vanishingly unlikely for someone to not know the PIN of the card they are carrying, without this indicating a deeper problem. The wording of the question is "do you know" your PIN. I don't understand what scenario that is designed to address.

Someone buying a hamburger with a stolen card...? With a card they "borrowed" from someone without asking...?

05-06-2011, 02:08 PM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Sonic CC Machines The card scanners at Sonic prompt: "Do you know your PIN?" What if you answered no??? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-06-2011, 02:11 PM	#2
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05-06-2011, 02:33 PM	#4
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	The drive-up fast-food joint I reckon. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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05-06-2011, 04:31 PM	#10
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction. and they come out Fingerprint you , Draw Blood , snip hair and Photograph you for Identity purposes __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

05-06-2011, 02:20 PM	#3
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	What the fuck are you talking about? The hedgehog?????

05-06-2011, 03:02 PM	#6
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	OH, and CC is credit card. We had a Sonic for like a year, then it just poof went out of business. I never did eat there.

05-06-2011, 03:16 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	If you park close enough to the menu thingie to run your card, then the person who comes to give you food can't reach your window.

05-06-2011, 04:49 PM	#12
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	It should probably ask, then, "Do you remember your PIN?"

05-06-2011, 05:16 PM	#13
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I have made numerous transactions with my plastic that did not require a signature or a PIN. It is easy to make fraudulent purchases in this way. I don't see the wording of this prompt as encouraging people to make fraudulent purchases. I see it as the first step in a decision tree of the payment processing system to determine how to process the payment. the wording could be different--in fact, when I bought groceries at the store this morning, the first prompt I saw was (words to the effect of): Credit / Debit? This is the same question essentially. I think the wording of the Sonic initial prompt was chosen for two reasons. 1 -- it is more conversational than credit/debit. and 2 -- it does seem to bias the transaction toward PIN/debit usage. Otherwise, if they're able to process it as a credit without a signature, why wouldn't they? and just skip the whole extra debit/pin trouble. I think they DON'T do this for two reasons. I think they would want to use the least expensive transaction model, and I think this is the debit transaction, and I think they'd want to make your shopping experience at Sonic as easy and uncomplicated as possible, therefore why bother you with a signature if they don't have to. my $0.02. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2011, 07:06 PM	#15
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I maintain that it would be vanishingly unlikely for someone to not know the PIN of the card they are carrying, without this indicating a deeper problem. The wording of the question is "do you know" your PIN. I don't understand what scenario that is designed to address. Someone buying a hamburger with a stolen card...? With a card they "borrowed" from someone without asking...? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 05-06-2011 at 07:11 PM.

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