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Old 01-21-2011, 11:46 AM   #1
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If it were me, I'd prefer the existing Avalon to the Jeep, but YMMV.

The Avalon is old and reliable. The Jeep is older and unknown.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:55 AM   #2
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As one who has always wanted an old jeep, just for play, I always liked the
CJ7s:
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:04 PM   #3
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As one who has always wanted an old jeep, just for play, I always liked the
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I always wanted a Jeep Scrambler.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:10 PM   #4
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The Avalon is old and reliable. The Jeep is older and unknown.
The truth is, the Avalon just doesn't get driven enough. We live 3 blocks from my wife's office and about a mile from mine. Plus we drag a big ass dog around with us a lot of the time.

As much as I hate to say it, pragmatics might win. But I'll keep dreaming until the wife flat-out shoots the idea down.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:12 PM   #5
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Remember, PW, that Jeep advice is worth what you pay for it.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:19 PM   #6
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I don't know how much the handling improved when they switched from CJ-7 to Wrangler. Someone new to manual 4x4s and driving high speed highway miles could find the old CJs a might touchy. Dying on dry pavement is an embarrassing way out. (I would still love to have one again.)
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Old 01-21-2011, 06:38 PM   #7
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The truth is, the Avalon just doesn't get driven enough.
At 250,000 miles, an Avalon is probably cheaper to keep as a second car.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:14 AM   #8
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But I'll keep dreaming until the wife flat-out shoots the idea down.

funny. this reminds me of an email i got from bruce this week:

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So, my boyfriend bought a '96 Cherokee (XJ) SE, for way too much, like around $3,000.
It broke down and he has put another $2,500 in it and totally rebuilt the engine and did a lot
of after market work on it. He has and will do all the labor himself, he refuses to pay for labor.
Now, he finds out that the motor needs to be taken back out and fixed again and is looking at
another $700. I said he should just sell it and wipe his hands clean, he says he won't make enough.

Firstly, what is your guys' opinion on what he should do? Secondly, how much do you think he
could make parting it versus just the whole car as is?

Thanks for your guys' opinions!
You want my opinion? Ok…

Shut the hell up. You're not his wife. You're not paying for the repairs. It's absolutely none of
your business what he does with his Jeep or his money. I know your type well… first it's "Sell the
Jeep because it's costing too much money." Then it's "No, you can't go spend the weekend with your
buddies because I need you to take me shopping." Then it's "Oh gee, honey… I'm pregnant. Gosh,
I have no idea how that happened."

You're a DreamKiller. You kill a guy's dreams, take away his future, tie him down with a fat mortgage
and too many babies, and turn him into just another miserable guy wondering, "How the hell did I get here?"

Do you really want to help him? Here's what you do… go to your local library (it's a big building
with books inside) and check out a couple of books on rebuilding engines. Read them, over and over,
until YOU understand what needs to be done. Then help him get that engine out and rebuild it. Tie your
hair back in a ponytail, put on some old jeans and get your hands dirty. Hand him wrenches, hold the light,
pull the wire connectors apart, help him get the hood off… help him with anything he needs. When he gets
tired, run inside and make him a hot lunch or dinner. Fix him coffee, hot chocolate, whatever he wants.
(But NO beer. Beer is for when the job is done.)

Then when the day is over and you're both exhausted from working on the engine, push him into a
hot shower and jump in with him. Scrub his back, wash his hair, rinse him off, and dry him with fluffy
towels still hot from the dryer. Then push him into bed and screw his ears off. Then get up the next day
and do it all over again.

Make him realize that rebuilding an engine is a slow and methodical process. Make him realize that
every step should be regarded as surgery; every step must be perfect… perfect torque, perfect fit,
perfectly clean. If you run into a step that you just can't figure out, ask for help from someone who
knows what he's doing. Are you cute? Put on a low-cut top, show some cleavage and go (by yourself) to
the local Jeep shop, and explain to the guys that you are helping your boyfriend to rebuild his engine
and neither of you can figure out this one little step, and do they have any advice…

Think it won't work? Think again. We guys love to help cute girls, even if they have a boyfriend.
(Hey, maybe you've got a sister, or girlfriend…)

But absolutely DO NOT whine or complain. Do not say a single negative thing. Not a single "Oooooo,
I broke a nail." If you break a nail, or cut your finger, or bang a knuckle, you just shut up and
DEAL WITH IT. You should be a hopelessly optomistic, never-say-die cheerleader, encouraging
him every step of the way.

That's my opinion.
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