Thomas Jefferson - still relevant

xoxoxoBruce · 12-30-2010, 11:55 PM

Sad ploy? That's reality, pregnant women crossing the border, having babies here.

Wasn't it white racists that enacted, and enforced with vigor every day, all those Jim Crow laws?

Lamplighter · 12-31-2010, 01:21 AM

OK, so the pregnant woman is "reality".
The sad ploy is Merc's attempt to divert our discussion off to yet another, different, political issue.

RichLevy's first sentence (in what Merc quoted) did refer to Jim Crow times, and RL wrote it in a past tense.
But his second sentence spoke to current activities in the politics of US immigration policies.
Subsequently Merc has tried to impose his "white racist extremists" on these current immigration issues.

I believe we can have a much better discussion without the use of such epithets, and I hope we will.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-31-2010, 05:44 AM

But if it walks like a duck, call it a fucking duck, that's honest discussion.

Lamplighter · 12-31-2010, 09:09 AM

No it's not honest discussion to have someone force you to say words you don't intend to use.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-31-2010, 11:09 AM

You have to decide if your discussing philosophies and concepts, or reality. If it's the latter, then it doesn't walk like a duck, it's a fucking duck.

TheMercenary · 01-02-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Sad ploy? That's reality, pregnant women crossing the border, having babies here.

Wasn't it white racists that enacted, and enforced with vigor every day, all those Jim Crow laws?

My point exactly.

And don't draw parallels between people who enacted Jim Crow Laws, White Racist Extremists, and those who are opposed to illegal immigration. Stop dancing around the issue and using comparisons that have nothing to do with each other, because those who enacted the Jim Crow laws were White Racist Extremists, and those who oppose illegal immigration are nothing of the kind.

12-30-2010, 11:55 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sad ploy? That's reality, pregnant women crossing the border, having babies here. Wasn't it white racists that enacted, and enforced with vigor every day, all those Jim Crow laws? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-31-2010, 05:44 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But if it walks like a duck, call it a fucking duck, that's honest discussion. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-31-2010, 11:09 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You have to decide if your discussing philosophies and concepts, or reality. If it's the latter, then it doesn't walk like a duck, it's a fucking duck. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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12-31-2010, 01:21 AM	#2
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	OK, so the pregnant woman is "reality". The sad ploy is Merc's attempt to divert our discussion off to yet another, different, political issue. RichLevy's first sentence (in what Merc quoted) did refer to Jim Crow times, and RL wrote it in a past tense. But his second sentence spoke to current activities in the politics of US immigration policies. Subsequently Merc has tried to impose his "white racist extremists" on these current immigration issues. I believe we can have a much better discussion without the use of such epithets, and I hope we will.

12-31-2010, 09:09 AM	#4
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	No it's not honest discussion to have someone force you to say words you don't intend to use.

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