WikiLeaks

[piercehawkeye45]

Ironically, this will probably cause the opposite effect of what wikileaks was hoping for. If they were looking for more transparency, it will cause US leaders to be even more secretive and come down on leaks even harder. If they were looking for a change to a more liberal, by liberal I mean sunshine and flowers type of liberal, US foreign policy, I could see it becoming even more blunt.

There is a need for classified information and blunt foreign policies but the problem, as always, is where is line drawn in the sea of gray.

[Lamplighter]

Classic, I doubt seriously the State Dept will not be able to negotiate with others.

One of the talking heads on TV reported that the response of former State Dept diplomats
was not about the embarrassment or trust, but the perception that diplomats were acting as spies.

If that's the policy (i.e., to spy), then change the policy.
I'm surprised Hillary didn't know better than to perpetuate Condy's policy.

But so far Wikileaks is not about Hillary, and I essentially agree with Piercehawkeye's last comment:

There is a need for classified information and blunt foreign policies but the problem, as always, is where is line drawn in the sea of gray.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That's the fucking point! You can't draw a line in a gray area, nobody will know where it is. That's why diplomats need latitude, and the ability to communicate frankly with their associates in other parts of the world, without fear of assholes like wikileaks.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Classic, I doubt seriously the State Dept will not be able to negotiate with others.

Again, I wasn't talking about JUST THE US. This is much bigger than that.

One of the talking heads on TV reported that the response of former State Dept diplomats was not about the embarrassment or trust, but the perception that diplomats were acting as spies.

Separate issue, but I do not think its a good thing letting them know this.
How many of those diplomats are going to be able to talk to other countries when they are now perceived as spies?

But so far Wikileaks is not about Hillary

no it isn't - you are the first to bring her up.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Classic, I doubt seriously the State Dept will not be able to negotiate with others.

It certainly weakens our position. Or don't you care about that?

One of the talking heads on TV reported that the response of former State Dept diplomats
was not about the embarrassment or trust, but the perception that diplomats were acting as spies.

If that's the policy (i.e., to spy), then change the policy.
I'm surprised Hillary didn't know better than to perpetuate Condy's policy.

But what if that was the policy? You don't like it or agree with it and are happy they leaked stolen classified information?