Bully-induced Suicide

[BrianR]

I did not provide the necessary details because I do not feel comfortable discussing this in public. It is still a painful subject for me and although eventually I will share the basics, the details shall remain private.

I can give generalities though. There was an overwhelming feeling of hopelessness and a "helpless in the tide" sensation where my life was spinning out of control and everything I had worked for was crashing down. One thought randomly led to another and finally suicide was the only way to stop the emotional pain. Or so I thought. Luckily I came to enough of my shattered senses to call for help.

Once a diagnosis was reached, and I had been educated enough to deal with things on my own, I rebuilt my life to what it is now. The initial problem is still there but I am in therapy and am working it out. Medication will be started very soon now. There is the possibility of surgery years from now if the meds do not alleviate the issue sufficiently. Time will tell.

As for the reasons for suicide, they are varied and all in the mind of the victim. There are few commonalities and most do not have a medical basis, unlike MY issue. No one really knows what a self-destructive person is thinking, even that person. Many attempted suicides are a disguised cry for help. Successful suicides are not.

We can never quite understand the underlying problems because the few who survive a serious attempt tend to lie about their reasoning or perhaps they don't understand it either. The bullied teens in the original topic may have had other problems that never came to light. Or perhaps they were covered up after the fact. Yes, that happens if the reasons embarrass the survivors. As an example, if the child of a prominent politician or other public figure kills themselves because they are homosexual, that fact may never see the light of day and the reports simply state the bland, unsupported facts of the death and not the underlying cause.

All may not be what it appears.

Brian

[tw]

Originally Posted by BrianR

I can give generalities though. There was an overwhelming feeling of hopelessness and a "helpless in the tide" sensation where my life was spinning out of control and everything I had worked for was crashing down. One thought randomly led to another and finally suicide was the only way to stop the emotional pain. Or so I thought. Luckily I came to enough of my shattered senses to call for help.

So many questions. For example, how does this vary from one suffering from depression? What does a therapist see that can tell the difference? Fpr example, can the Beck depression scale identify that difference?

Is it at all possible for the victim (once properly informed) to appreciate or recognize these differences from inside himself? Or are there tests (some kind of benchmark) a victim can perform to learn that they need to seek help?
(Where is wolf?)

[BrianR]

Originally Posted by tw

So many questions. For example, how does this vary from one suffering from depression? What does a therapist see that can tell the difference? Fpr example, can the Beck depression scale identify that difference?

Is it at all possible for the victim (once properly informed) to appreciate or recognize these differences from inside himself? Or are there tests (some kind of benchmark) a victim can perform to learn that they need to seek help?
(Where is wolf?)

I cannot answer these questions. I am not depressed, not a trained therapist and never heard of the Beck scale. I have no idea if there is a benchmark or some other self-test. All I have is MY experience, which is limited to one episode and only involving me.