Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

So you decide to get into a pissing match that I wanted no part of to begin with. So you are interjecting your 2 cents for what purpose? Really?
For the record - I threw a stone right back at the asshole and his yapdogs, you included. Let it fuckin' die.

This is why people don't like you.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

NEVER did I say anything of the sort.

OK

Originally Posted by classicman

Severe regulation adds inherent costs that will offset any savings. The more bureaucratic this becomes, the more it will cost.

So this was merely a prediction, and not an argument against severe regulation? It can be hard to judge tone on the internet.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

This is why people don't like you.

And your getting into something that previously had NOTHING to do with you is why some people don't like you - me included. This type of behavior is why I had you on ignore. Additionally, your opinion doesn't matter to me. Some people like me some don't - thats life. Now for everyone's benefit why don't you stay out of mine.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

So this was merely a prediction, and not an argument against severe regulation? It can be hard to judge tone on the internet.

Absolutely an argument FOR single payer. (shouldn't that be payor?)

What they've done now is probably worse financially. Certainly not an endorsement of no regulation, nor an endorsement of heavy regulation - just an opinion.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

And your getting into something that previously had NOTHING to do with you

Had nothing to do with me until YOU brought me into. At least that's what you said:

Originally Posted by classicman

I threw a stone right back at the asshole and his yapdogs, you included.

Originally Posted by classicman

.... Now for everyone's benefit why don't you stay out of mine.

Sure, right up until you bring me back in. You're obsessed with me.

[classicman]

Health Insurers Seeking Rate Hikes Of More Than 20 Percent In Connecticut

Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said, "These outrageous requests demonstrate the need for stronger Department of Insurance authority to block unjustified health insurance premium increases, as I strongly advocated in the last session. My proposed bill would have allowed the commissioner to consider insurer profitability, required insurers to inform customers of rate requests and mandated an up or down ruling on all increases."

On Sept. 23, health insurers will be required to comply with an array of provisions that were part of federal health reform laws passed six months ago. In Connecticut, some of provisions were already extended to consumers by state law. Others were not, and they are cited as part of the reason for proposed increases to premiums starting Oct. 1.

"If you fail to recognize that the new requirements around benefits that were passed in federal reform were going to drive price, I think you're being intellectually irresponsible," said Keith Stover, a lobbyist with the Connecticut Association of Health Plans.

New regulations include eliminating cash limits on how much insurers pay per person each year, and throughout a person's lifetime. Insurers won't be able to deny coverage to children under 19 who have a pre-existing medical condition. Additionally, some federal laws duplicate what was already law in Connecticut, such as allowing young adults to stay on their parents plan until they reach age 26.

"Those are new benefits that are going to cost money," Stover said. "You can't just wave the magic wand and say, 'Do all these things, and they're free.' It just doesn't work that way."

From here: Bold mine.

For the record, there was no stone thrown in this post unless one is so super sensitive and takes any opposing view specifically directed at his post as a personal attack.

[Spexxvet]

Today, the average cost of a family health insurance offered by an employer is $13,375. That's up 131% over the last decade—a period in which inflation rose only 28%. And one estimate says that if costs continue on their current trajectory, premiums will go up another 166% in the decade ahead

Read more: http://money.blogs.time.com/2009/09/...#ixzz0zcb6Jd6D

From here

[Spexxvet]

Interesting analysis

[classicman]

How to respond to "baiting" in the Cellar:
1) ignore
2) respond with facts and not by whining to a moderator that someone is picking on you or with childish remarks about blowjobs.
3) respond with humor; some are better than others at this approach (you know who you are)
4) don't edit the posts of others; it makes you look foolish and unable to think for yourself

Since we're playing the semantics game ...

This is attached to every post you make - deliberately. That in itself is enough.

Originally Posted by classicman

Since we're playing the semantics game ...

This is attached to every post you make - deliberately. That in itself is enough.

You dont like my signature...too bad. Didnt you have a signature for quite a while directed at TW? You like to dish it out, but cant take it?

You over-reacted to the substance in my post in which there was no direct attack and no stones thrown and you responded with an ignorant and offensive remark about a BJ directed at another member...and then claim it was a joke? Bullshit.

You're not only super sensitive, as others have noted. IMO, you're a liar.

[classicman]

Gee for one who claims to take the higher ground - BWAHAHAHAA

Your opinion? Your opinion is meaningless.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Was that necessary, Merc?

[TheMercenary]

FTR. He likes to change shit he posts and then come back as all holier than thou....

But I get your point, and I shall refrain from further documentation....

Point taken.

[Spexxvet]

A provider is coming between my patient and the product that is best for them and that they want.

VSP, one of the largest eyewear insurance providers has decided it will not pay for frames made by Aspex Eyewear Group. Why? Because a frame company that is a subsidiary of VSP infringed on an Aspex patent and Aspex is suing VSP.

Isn't our current system just wonderful?