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Old 06-06-2010, 12:27 PM   #1
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(*Note: Anyone who's going to come here, and tell me that vegetarianism or vegan-ism are perfectly acceptable/natural forms of diet... Tell me, when was the last time you heard of someone's gut being unable to process, say, chicken, or beef? My girlfriend knows a lady who's unable to process most plant matter, including most grain... but she's more than able to process meats, still. We can become allergic to all manner of plant, but meat? No, sir.....)

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Uhm, wrong, very wrong. I had a teach who was allergic to poultry, pork and fish. I have also known (perfectly healthy) vegetarians who would get extremely sick if they ate meat. It is completely likely that there is a number of people who are allergic to all manners of meat. There are plenty of plant-based proteins, which is the main nutrition we get from meat. The vegetarian Indian people I've also known didn't seem to be malnourished.
Although I think it is perfectly fine for meat to be affordable, Americans over-consume meat in major proportions that are not at all healthy for us.
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Old 06-06-2010, 01:48 PM   #2
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Uhm, wrong, very wrong. I had a teach who was allergic to poultry, pork and fish. I have also known (perfectly healthy) vegetarians who would get extremely sick if they ate meat. It is completely likely that there is a number of people who are allergic to all manners of meat. There are plenty of plant-based proteins, which is the main nutrition we get from meat. The vegetarian Indian people I've also known didn't seem to be malnourished.
Although I think it is perfectly fine for meat to be affordable, Americans over-consume meat in major proportions that are not at all healthy for us.
Generally speaking, the only time a person will be allergic to meat (especially two different types of meat) would be environmental, rather than simply being allergic to meat of the animal... Poorly prepared, poorly sourced, or poorly reared animals.

(There are obviously SOME exceptions... there always are.)

Whereas plant matter can simply be indigestible, to many people.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:02 AM   #3
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I'm happy for my meat to be cheap... I enjoy eating a well balanced, nutritionally-sound diet, and, more than that - a completely natural diet... The more expensive that meat becomes, the more malnourished we'll become, 'cept the richer amongst us, of course... So, until there's some other means of making meat cheap? I'm all for whatever they do
Apparently the healthiest diet of any Brit in the 20th century was during rationing. Diets were high in vegetables and grains and low in meat and fat. They were probably lower on fruit than would be considered ideal these days (I've heard first hand stories from evacuee relatives about them gorging themselves on stolen fruit until they were sick). No of course I'm not suggesting a return to rationing. But to posit that expensive (or unavailable) meat means malnutrition is way off beam.
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Although I think it is perfectly fine for meat to be affordable, Americans over-consume meat in major proportions that are not at all healthy for us.
Brits too. It's one of the few bad habits I'm not guilty of. My diet is far from healthy unless I am making a deliberate effort, but my meat consumption has always been low/ occasional. Says the woman eating Lamb Rogan Josh tonight
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