The Obamanation

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Lies, Lies, and more Kabuki Theater from Obamy.

Today the jobless rate was estimated at 9.6%, that totally biased news program, NPR, stated they continue to underestimate and not count those who have stopped looking (they interviewed a number of these people) and those who are in part time jobs because that is all they can get. The estimate actually is around 16%, btw, 36,000 more people lost their jobs last month...

The unemployment rate announced today is the "official" rate that has been used for years....the U3 rate.

It considers three factors: 1) those who were not employed during the reference period, 2) those who were available for work at that time and 3) they made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the reference period.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

The U6 rate, which is reported as well, has never been the "official" rate, but for political reasons, those on the right want to start using that rate now. What a surprise.

So now its "lies, lies and kabuki theater" to use the same official rate as previous administrations?

There's a partisan opinion if I ever heard one.

[SamIam]

@ Pie

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Redux

The unemployment rate announced today is the "official" rate that has been used for years....the U3 rate.

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The U6 rate, which is reported as well, has never been the "official" rate, but for political reasons, those on the right want to start using that rate now. What a surprise.
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This bears repeating. While the U6 is more honest, the U3 is what they report and should be used to keep references apples to apples.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Redux

...So now its "lies, lies and kabuki theater" to use the same official rate as previous administrations?
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In Merc's case, it's bukkake theater.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

In Merc's case, it's bukkake theater.

Is that your fantasy for your face?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

The unemployment rate announced today is the "official" rate that has been used for years....the U3 rate.

It considers three factors: 1) those who were not employed during the reference period, 2) those who were available for work at that time and 3) they made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the reference period.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

The U6 rate, which is reported as well, has never been the "official" rate, but for political reasons, those on the right want to start using that rate now. What a surprise.

So now its "lies, lies and kabuki theater" to use the same official rate as previous administrations?

There's a partisan opinion if I ever heard one.

Tell it to the newly 36,000 unemployed last month. Oh, so funny right? Where are the jobs?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Tell it to the newly 36,000 unemployed last month. Oh, so funny right? Where are the jobs?

The fact remains you were just spewing your usual rhetoric of "lies and more lies by Obama" and once again, you were wrong.

No one likes the job losses except perhaps those who take glee in wanting Obama to fail.

The number of jobs lost has gotten smaller in each of the last 6-8 months.....that is how you turn the economy around...one month at a time...not with a magic bean that goes from losing 779,000 jobs last January (when Obama took office) to the latest numbers.

In fact, with the exception of a few monthly blips, the last two months have had the smallest number of monthly jobs lost in nearly two years.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/Surv..._view=net_1mth

IMO, that is a good trend and attributable in part to the stimulus program, but we'll never know what the jobs lost would have been w/o the stimulus.

[Yznhymr]

Originally Posted by Redux

The fact remains...

No one likes...

In fact...

IMO...

Where are the facts? What Gov't body has published data to support your comments? IMO??? Really? Your opinion? Means shit.

HOLD IT!!!!! Hold it!!! This is crazy! Why ridicule such a brilliant political commentator? This person is a genius! Everything based on fact from reliable sources and nothing ever based on fallible opinion! I admit it, I am wrong and redux is right! All hail redux! fuck stick

Originally Posted by Yznhymr

Where are the facts? What Gov't body has published data to support your comments? IMO??? Really? Your opinion? Means shit.

HOLD IT!!!!! Hold it!!! This is crazy! Why ridicule such a brilliant political commentator? This person is a genius! Everything based on fact from reliable sources and nothing ever based on fallible opinion! I admit it, I am wrong and redux is right! All hail redux! fuck stick

The BLS data is as factual as any you can find ...or, at the very least, if you dont trust govt data, was compiled the same way as previous administrations.....so Merc's suggestion that Obama was lying when using the same official standard (U-3) as Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan... was simply wrong. That is a fact.

The rest was my opinion...which is no shittier than yours or Mercs.

[Yznhymr]

Originally Posted by Redux

The BLS data is as factual as any you can find ...or, at the very least, if you dont trust govt data, was compiled the same way as previous administrations.....so Merc's suggestion that Obama was lying when using the same official standard (U-3) as Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan... was simply wrong. That is a fact.

The rest was my opinion...which is no shittier than yours or Mercs.

Merc who? No idea what you are talking about.

I don't read this forum. I just like baiting stupid assholes. You are making this way too easy! PS. Merc must be really cool to get you going like this!

[xoxoxoBruce]

You've been drinking again, haven't you.