WWJK: Who would Jesus Kill - Military supplier adds bible references to rifle sights - Page 2

monster · 01-21-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

It just sounds so wrong to put a bible verse on a killing machine. This is what really pisses me off about some Christians....everything is justified conveniently away.

Isn't the soldier the killing machine? The gun is just a making holes in things machine...

Spexxvet · 01-21-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Isn't the soldier the killing machine? The gun is just a making holes in things machine...

No. Remember? "Guns don't kill people, texting while driving kills people".*

* Property of Zengum, used without permission.

lookout123 · 01-21-2010, 09:50 AM

Pico - Seriously? You think there is a disconnect between the Bible and killing? Might want to flip through a couple pages of that book again.

The US military is not a christian or crusader's army, it is an army put forth by the US. They need tools like scopes and night sights. Those tools are made by a company that happens to put a series of letters and numbers on the equipment. If an atheist, jew, or muslim feels compelled to read those letters, grab a Bible, read the verse and be offended... fuck 'em.

Of course, you can sit and home and be offended if you want but I don't really give a shit. How many of you were offended to find out that the report on the Ft Hood shootings makes no mention of the shooter's motivation and faith? None that I can see. Read a report that there are references to Bible verses (all havign to do with light) on scopes and night vision gear and Lookout! Here comes the handwringing and tears.

DanaC · 01-21-2010, 09:53 AM

'all having to do with light'. The implication clearly beng that the Christian God brings the light and that non-Christians are in darkness. So the army of an ostensibly Christian nation is using guns marked with quotations referring to the Christian God's bringing of the light, against non-Christians: thereby bringing the light to them?

Onward Christian soldiers.

squirell nutkin · 01-21-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

...And the Song of Solomon is almost porn...

Link please?

Spexxvet · 01-21-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin

Link please?

Settle down, there aren't any pictures.

01-21-2010, 10:04 AM

Defense contractors should not be inscribing religious messages on anything sold to the government.

Is it s a contracting violation? IDK. Should it be our greatest concern with DoD contracting irregularities? Nope.

What those companies do with regard to private sales is their own business.

Spexxvet · 01-21-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Pico - Seriously? You think there is a disconnect between the Bible and killing? ...

No, just between what people who profess to be christian say and what they do.

lookout123 · 01-21-2010, 10:14 AM

I'm still looking for your disconnect Pico.

Dana - the verses are about light. The equipment they are etched into draw light into them to give the ability to see at night. or we can just as easily assume it is a big slap in the face to those dirty muslims.

The verses were there before the government gave the contract. Don't like it? don't give the contract to that company. Of course, I'm willing to bet that even a muslim soldier given the choice between having and not having this "offensive" equipment would choose to have it.

In the end I'm sure Trijicon will want to keep the contract and will agree to stop etching the sights. I truly don't care. Admittedly I find it pretty funny. The only part that gets under my skin is all the people pissing and moaning about this trivial issue rather than focusing on bigger problems.

DanaC · 01-21-2010, 10:19 AM

I wasn't suggesting the contract be cancelled. Just pointing out that 'it's about light' isn't necessarily an innocuous thing in the context of a Christian nation at war with a moslem army.

lookout123 · 01-21-2010, 10:27 AM

Fair enough. It may not be as innocent as I've put it, but in the end it is still who cares item for me. Sure, there are plenty of people ready to get their panties in a twist but let's face it, most of them are just looking for something to be pissed at anyway.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-21-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

It's also possible they could offend moslem troops in the US army.

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Originally Posted by Griff

Are there any agnostic, atheist, Jewish, Moslem, or Buddhist fuckers in the US Army?

It doesn't matter, if they are in the US Army they do what they are ordered to do, with the equipment they are issued.
[T Hanks]There is no offended in the Army.[/T Hanks]

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Originally Posted by DanaC

I wasn't suggesting the contract be cancelled. Just pointing out that 'it's about light' isn't necessarily an innocuous thing in the context of a Christian nation at war with a moslem army.

You're really reaching, don't fall over.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-21-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Fair enough. It may not be as innocent as I've put it, but in the end it is still who cares item for me. Sure, there are plenty of people ready to get their panties in a twist but let's face it, most of them are just looking for something to be pissed at anyway.

You can't say panties, that's sexist and condescending.

lookout123 · 01-21-2010, 10:46 AM

I'm sure that not every single person who is upset by this issue wears panties. But they should.

DanaC · 01-21-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
I wasn't suggesting the contract be cancelled. Just pointing out that 'it's about light' isn't necessarily an innocuous thing in the context of a Christian nation at war with a moslem army.

You're really reaching, don't fall over.

Hardly reaching. It seems fucking obvious to me.

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I'm sure that not every single person who is upset by this issue wears panties. But they should.

...being upset and getting involved in a discussion aren't necessarily the same thing, Some of us just like to argue/discuss shit.

01-21-2010, 09:50 AM	#18
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Pico - Seriously? You think there is a disconnect between the Bible and killing? Might want to flip through a couple pages of that book again. The US military is not a christian or crusader's army, it is an army put forth by the US. They need tools like scopes and night sights. Those tools are made by a company that happens to put a series of letters and numbers on the equipment. If an atheist, jew, or muslim feels compelled to read those letters, grab a Bible, read the verse and be offended... fuck 'em. Of course, you can sit and home and be offended if you want but I don't really give a shit. How many of you were offended to find out that the report on the Ft Hood shootings makes no mention of the shooter's motivation and faith? None that I can see. Read a report that there are references to Bible verses (all havign to do with light) on scopes and night vision gear and Lookout! Here comes the handwringing and tears. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-21-2010, 10:14 AM	#24
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	I'm still looking for your disconnect Pico. Dana - the verses are about light. The equipment they are etched into draw light into them to give the ability to see at night. or we can just as easily assume it is a big slap in the face to those dirty muslims. The verses were there before the government gave the contract. Don't like it? don't give the contract to that company. Of course, I'm willing to bet that even a muslim soldier given the choice between having and not having this "offensive" equipment would choose to have it. In the end I'm sure Trijicon will want to keep the contract and will agree to stop etching the sights. I truly don't care. Admittedly I find it pretty funny. The only part that gets under my skin is all the people pissing and moaning about this trivial issue rather than focusing on bigger problems. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-21-2010, 10:27 AM	#26
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Fair enough. It may not be as innocent as I've put it, but in the end it is still who cares item for me. Sure, there are plenty of people ready to get their panties in a twist but let's face it, most of them are just looking for something to be pissed at anyway. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-21-2010, 10:46 AM	#29
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	I'm sure that not every single person who is upset by this issue wears panties. But they should. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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01-21-2010, 10:04 AM	#22
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	Defense contractors should not be inscribing religious messages on anything sold to the government. Is it s a contracting violation? IDK. Should it be our greatest concern with DoD contracting irregularities? Nope. What those companies do with regard to private sales is their own business.

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