Global warming?

[ZenGum]

when countries with lables of "developing" get a pass.

China? India? Watch the news, man.

I am presently marking another pile of essays on the Climate Debates. Ho fucking hum, but one interesting source pointed out that all the burning of fossil fuels (and the use of uranium etc) - completely apart from any CO2/greenhouse stuff - is taking a large amount of energy that had been locked up as chemical (or nuclear) energy, and releasing it to turn into heat. That warms the atmosphere. While a warmer atmosphere will emit more heat to space (ceteris paribus), it is less than 100% pass through and so this alone would/should/will/already-has cause(d) warming.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

China? India? Watch the news, man.

Oh I do/have/will. And both of those countries have been in the news a lot lately. It does not mean they are actually taking any concrete steps to fix their problems. I didn't hear anything about China slowing or stopping the building of coal fired plants or adding expensive scrubbers to their factories and power plants. And India is in the same boat. Meanwhile we are full steam ahead at a plan to bankrupt our country trying to fix a problem that will have little to no effect on global warming.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

. . . taking a large amount of energy that had been locked up as chemical (or nuclear) energy, and releasing it to turn into heat. That warms the atmosphere. While a warmer atmosphere will emit more heat to space (ceteris paribus), it is less than 100% pass through and so this alone would/should/will/already-has cause(d) warming.

Waste heat, and thermodynamics.

But there have definitely been enough problems predicting the climate as to suggest the models aren't right yet.