The Obamanation

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Griff

For instance, Bush still holds you in his grasp even as his very unRepublican interventionist programs continue to kill American soldiers and yield little in the way of democratic self government. Both major parties are cult-like.

Griff, I can recognize libertarian-like thinking and policymaking in Republicans even when you can't. Bush41 didn't, but Reagan did, as did Bush43. To how much effect, particularly inside the Beltway, there is plenty of room for debate. I'd imagine at least three thick books' worth.

I am no intellectual puppet, but you may be, as suggested by your "holds you in his grasp" blather. It's the kind of thing puppet people would say, no? I challenge you to show otherwise. For starters, interventionism against totalitarianism cannot be wrong, and you cannot show it to be so. Don't remain misled by white liberal guilt; democracy in its several flavors is really the only way for humans to live well vis-a-vis their governments. Anything less than democratic inescapably ends up being all about the oppression. Such things are quite the enemy of mankind. See if you can show otherwise. I don't think you can manage that one either; not and stay committed to liberty you can't.

You're a stimulating thinker, Griff, but you still manage to piss me off a lot, for somebody I've probably got a lot in common with.