June 1, 2009: Skin Art

[classicman]

Originally Posted by glatt

This really pisses me off. If somebody donates their body to science, how the hell did this guy get his hands on their body parts? This will cause people to be less likely to donate their body to science in the future, and body donations are needed for science.

As is shown in your usertitle!

Also:

"He is working withdeep and disturbing resonances.
he is pretty much out there on his own."

[JLrep]

Seriously. I like art. Art is great. If I donate my body to art, then you go ahead and cut it up and tan the skin and make toothpicks out of my bones. Whatever's arty.

But if I donate my body to science, please put it to some sort of actual use, or my ghost is going to be all sorts of put out.

I mean, you could at least shove it in Body Worlds. Label it as "Totally Average Guy, Notice Effects of Sitting In Front of Computer a Lot". It will be amazing (maybe).

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by JLrep

Seriously. I like art. Art is great. If I donate my body to art, then you go ahead and cut it up and tan the skin and make toothpicks out of my bones. Whatever's arty.

But if I donate my body to science, please put it to some sort of actual use, or my ghost is going to be all sorts of put out.

I mean, you could at least shove it in Body Worlds. Label it as "Totally Average Guy, Notice Effects of Sitting In Front of Computer a Lot". It will be amazing (maybe).

Perhaps the donor's name was Art.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Pie

What does it matter, they're dead. Garbage. Refuse. Worm-food.

Heck, I'll donate my body to art. They could probably upholster a whole sofa using my hide...

How do you think your children would feel looking up at dad's torso-skin after it has been peeled from your body, scraped to the desired thickness, dried, tanned (ever been to a tannery, btw? You should go before making this decision.), and stretched into the general shape of Oklahoma?

[dmg1969]

What's next...a mobile made of kidneys, tongues and eyeballs?

I agree...totally tasteless. I don't know where some people get their ideas of what is art. My ex was an art major and she had some weird fucking friends.

[Pie]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

How do you think your children would feel looking up at dad's torso-skin after it has been peeled from your body, scraped to the desired thickness, dried, tanned (ever been to a tannery, btw? You should go before making this decision.), and stretched into the general shape of Oklahoma?

I have my father's autopsy notes on my computer -- that's basically what they did to him. And they learned -- nothing.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

This really pisses me off. If somebody donates their body to science, how the hell did this guy get his hands on their body parts? This will cause people to be less likely to donate their body to science in the future, and body donations are needed for science.

I sort of agree. If they donated thier bodies for art it would be one thing. It appears there were no art donations. During anatomy lab they go out of their way to ensure proper respect for the people in there. Any antics of any kind and you are out with a failing grade. So I am curious as to whom gave him permission to use this skin for a use other than medical.

[sweasel]

Would it be racist of me to speculate that he uses white skin because that's all he's got to work with? I wonder the racial and gender breakdown of people who donate their bodies to science.

Just sayin'.

[classicman]

Interesting first post - welcome - I think.

[TheMercenary]

I don't think it would be racist to ask the question. In fact there should be some stats out there on it. I suspect that there is a much lower rate of donation by people other than white for many reasons, esp cultural and religious. We may have had one out of 9 bodies in our lab that was a black person.

[ZenGum]

... which would be fine, except that his lab only does electronics research...


Seriously (just for a moment), is one balck per nine people a reasonable proportionate representation of the population in your area? It sounds about right for the USA in general.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sweasel

Would it be racist of me to speculate that he uses white skin because that's all he's got to work with? I wonder the racial and gender breakdown of people who donate their bodies to science.

Just sayin'.

The exhibition in London in July will include a new sculpture made out of the final piece of skin Krasnow obtained in a job lot 20 years ago –

The job lots may have been sorted by color, but he claims he only wanted white anyway.

Oh, and welcome to the Cellar.

[Sundae]

I would have no problem with it - IF the skin had been left by people with the intention of making art.

What bothers me is that the artist is making a political and a racial statement out of people who selflessly donated their bodies so that the rest of the human race could benefit. And he is using their gift to make a statement about how awful America is, Americans are, white Americans behave.

No. Wrong.

Now, if you really want to be controversial, make a statement about crime using the skins of people killed on Death Row. Or about gang culture using skins of people shot on the streets of cities with gang related killings. Or about drugs using junkie hides.

Don't take completely unrelated skins and try to say something about a whole country.
Grrrr. And I'm pretty liberal in my definition of art.
This is something I would not go to see. This is misrepresentational. If that is a word. If I want lies and generalisations I can read a newspaper.

BTW - Clod. You're not thinking of home schooling are you? Only I kinda worry about your idea of a project

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by dmg1969

What's next...a mobile made of kidneys, tongues and eyeballs?...

That would be more of an organ recital.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

BTW - Clod. You're not thinking of home schooling are you? Only I kinda worry about your idea of a project

Christ, no. Let someone else deal with them for 8 hours a day.