Rod Blagojevich (D)

[TheMercenary]

Well it sounds like these two guys have some pretty good credentials. I would tend to believe someone with known credentials over a nameless, faceless Redux. What are yours?

Bill West is a retired INS/ICE Supervisory Special Agent who ran organized crime and national security investigations. He is now a counter-terrorism consultant and freelance writer.

Paul Craig Roberts (born April 3, 1939, in Atlanta, Georgia) is an economist and a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate. He served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration earning fame as the "Father of Reaganomics". He is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and Scripps Howard News Service. He is a graduate of the Georgia Institute of Technology and he holds a Ph.D. from the University of Virginia. He was a post-graduate at the University of California, Berkeley, and Oxford University where he was a member of Merton College.

In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.

Roberts is seriously dismayed by what he considers the Republican Party's disregard for the US constitution. He has even voiced his regret that he ever worked for it, avowing that, had he known what it would become, he would never have contributed to the Reagan Revolution

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well it sounds like these two guys have some pretty good credentials. I would tend to believe someone with known credentials over a nameless, faceless Redux. What are yours?

The issue should not be me or guys with credentials.

It should be documented facts (as in the five DoJ reports I cited) vs undocumented allegations (as in UGs conservative periodicals...lots of heresay, but not one primary source cited or footnoted).

Facts v Allegations!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

The issue should not be me or guys with credentials.

It should be documented facts (as in the five DoJ reports I cited) vs undocumented allegations (as in UGs conservative periodicals...lots of heresay, but not one primary source cited or footnoted).

Facts v Allegations!

We don't we hear people every day who say something and we have no choice but to take them on their word that they are right. Don't we do that with Obama? How about Pelosi and Reid telling us how the stimulus package is going to save our economy? Or how about the Republickins telling us all how it is a big giant bondoggle and nothing more than a special interest spending package? When the president stands up and says, "I did not have sex with that woman!" or the Chief of the CIA telling the president, "Slam Dunk!"? I think the credentials of the author have much to do with it.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

We don't we hear people every day who say something and we have no choice but to take them on their word that they are right. Don't we do that with Obama? How about Pelosi and Reid telling us how the stimulus package is going to save our economy? Or how about the Republickins telling us all how it is a big giant bondoggle and nothing more than a special interest spending package? When the president stands up and says, "I did not have sex with that woman!" or the Chief of the CIA telling the president, "Slam Dunk!"? I think the credentials of the author have much to do with it.

Merc..its really quite simple.

UG made the claim that the Clinhton DoJ committed more unlawful acts than the Bsuh DoJ.

I simply asked for cites.....not opinions from conservative and/or gun periodicals, but something comparable to DOJ internal reprots or GAO reports.

Not that I really give a fuck.

If you and UG think the Clinton DoJ politicized the DoJ more than Bush...thats fine!

Its just not worth discussing with you.

If UG wants to continue, I'll look foward to seeing cites that resemble facts more than opinions.