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Old 02-23-2009, 01:23 AM   #1
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Hell, we should have let Iraqi contractors be in charge.
We did. And then enrich Halliburtion for it. We even murdered American soldiers - electrocuted in showers - by paying Halliburton to let Iraqi contractors be in charge.
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:12 PM   #2
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We did. And then enrich Halliburtion for it. We even murdered American soldiers - electrocuted in showers - by paying Halliburton to let Iraqi contractors be in charge.
From what I've heard in the news, it wasn't Iraqi contractors who did the sloppy work. It was an American contractor. An American contractor who has changed their name and now has another contract to do work in Afghanistan. So how is it you are blaming the Iraqis?
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:25 PM   #3
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From what I've heard in the news, it wasn't Iraqi contractors who did the sloppy work. It was an American contractor.
Iraqi contractors (or American hired Iraqis) are not being blamed and were not a solution. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Murder of American soldiers in showers is directly traceable to top management - even if the work is done by Iraqi contractors (paid by the job) or Iraqi employees (paid by the hour).

First task was call it an accident. Therefore blame does not go to the source.

And so the joke - let Iraqi contractors do the work. Iraqis could not have done it any worse. In essense, Americans got paid to let their Iraqi employees do it without training and oversight. And then we blame the Iraqis. Or call it an accident - same thing.
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:46 PM   #4
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Iraqi contractors (or American hired Iraqis) are not being blamed and were not a solution. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Murder of American soldiers in showers is directly traceable to top management - even if the work is done by Iraqi contractors (paid by the job) or Iraqi employees (paid by the hour).

First task was call it an accident. Therefore blame does not go to the source.

And so the joke - let Iraqi contractors do the work. Iraqis could not have done it any worse. In essense, Americans got paid to let their Iraqi employees do it without training and oversight. And then we blame the Iraqis. Or call it an accident - same thing.
Iraqis might have actually done it right, if they had been in charge.

KBR was in charge, and they claimed they were NOT required to follow US electrical safety codes. Even the DOD is losing confidence in them.
http://cellar.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=538077

The accidental deaths and close calls, which are being investigated by Congress and the Defense Department’s inspector general, raise new questions about the oversight of contractors in the war zone, where unjustified killings by security guards, shoddy reconstruction projects and fraud involving military supplies have spurred previous inquiries.

American electricians who worked for KBR, the Houston-based defense contractor that is responsible for maintaining American bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, said they repeatedly warned company managers and military officials about unsafe electrical work, which was often performed by poorly trained Iraqis and Afghans paid just a few dollars a day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/wo...ectrocute.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29065911/
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