Who does homosexuality hurt?

[Shawnee123]

I know there are some traditional couples who feel their marriage is threatened by teh gheys...but that's just stupidity.

Love is love. Commitment is commitment.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I know there are some traditional couples who feel their marriage is threatened by teh gheys...but that's just stupidity.

Love is love. Commitment is commitment.

Isn't it more that they think their vows to each other will be cheapened if 'just anyone' is allowed to go ahead and get married? That's the feeling I get when I read those sorts of discussions.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Isn't it more that they think their vows to each other will be cheapened if 'just anyone' is allowed to go ahead and get married? That's the feeling I get when I read those sorts of discussions.

Well, I see what you're saying, but to me that's the whole point. How could anyone else's anything cheapen another's couple's vows, if what you have is strong who cares what everyone else is doing?

I think vows are cheapened more by serial marriage people: hop from one marriage or relationship to another, or by those who marry for money, or for a million other reasons that, to me, seem aside from what marriage should be about. It's my opinion that pretty much "just anyone" can get married anyway...who am I to limit it or to say Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue can get married because they're in love, even if he beats her or she cheats, but Billy Joe and Bobby Jack who are very committed and believe in a purpose in life can't?

I know I'm talking to a very happily married person, so your opinion is valuable to this discussion. So many are not happy...

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Well, I see what you're saying, but to me that's the whole point. How could anyone else's anything cheapen another's couple's vows, if what you have is strong who cares what everyone else is doing?

I think vows are cheapened more by serial marriage people: hop from one marriage or relationship to another, or by those who marry for money, or for a million other reasons that, to me, seem aside from what marriage should be about. It's my opinion that pretty much "just anyone" can get married anyway...who am I to limit it or to say Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue can get married because they're in love, even if he beats her or she cheats, but Billy Joe and Bobby Jack who are very committed and believe in a purpose in life can't?

I know I'm talking to a very happily married person, so your opinion is valuable to this discussion. So many are not happy...

I was simply making an observation...trying to put myself in the other persons shoes to try and understand the position.

I don't agree with it, but I think that's what it is.

[Tree Fae]

[.Quote How could anyone else's anything cheapen another couple's vows, if what you have is strong who cares what everyone else is doing?

That is the argument that annoys me the most. I have know so many people who jump right into a marriage and then are divorced 6 months later. But a pair of lovers who have been together faithfully for 10 years can't possible be married because they are both female. Oh no can't have that.
I don't need some church's opinion to tell me what is right and wrong. I know what is right for me and I am sure they know what is right for them.

Having left a marriage entered into full of love only to be handing more abuse than I plan on ever dealing with again, I know first hand that just being male and female isn't what makes a marriage.
Love, caring, respect are the needed ingredients and they aren't only available to straight people.
I was ashamed of the people in MO when they voted to discriminate against those who live and spend their money in the stores and pay the same taxes as the rest. As for them, Karma will come around.