How long will he live? - Page 4

Pie · 11-05-2008, 01:06 PM

Interesting. I'm not sure those were really there as protection -- they seem t leave a lot of the guy uncovered.

glatt · 11-05-2008, 01:17 PM

I don't know Chicago at all, so maybe those of you who have been and know this park can comment better, but I just went to Google Earth and looked at the satellite imagery for this park. The buildings behind Obama in the picture are 1 full mile away from Obama. A telephoto lens makes them appear to be closer than they are. To the left of the picture, in the direction that Obama is facing, are closer buildings that are not as tall. (They are out of frame.) They are about 500 meters away. According to Merc, a sniper could reach Obama from there, but the plexiglass protects him from that direction. Behind the photographer, there is a large museum about 300 meters away. It shields him from that direction. And to the right in the picture, behind Obama, is the lake.

I think they did a pretty good job of shielding him.

Pie · 11-05-2008, 01:27 PM

How about from where the guy took this picture? If he's in photo range, he's in bullet range.
(I don't know why I'm arguing about this -- I think he'll be fine.)

glatt · 11-05-2008, 01:42 PM

The press go through security.

But yeah, that would be more of an "inside job" and that's the only way I can see anyone getting close enough. I think he'll be fine. (of course, I did obsess enough about it to go look at Google Earth.)

bartman · 11-05-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

(of course, I did obsess enough about it to go look at Google Earth.)

I didn't

freshnesschronic · 11-05-2008, 02:48 PM

As a Chicagoan, Grant Park is on the shoreline basically, surrounded by the art institute and Roosevelt U, Columbia College of Chicago and other buildings that would have been WELL covered by security. To the north is Millenium park, again no chance for anybody. No one has a chance on the ground, the only feasible chance would be on a boat but I'm sure coast guard was there with helicopter coverage, I heard choppers in the speech. The college buildings don't allow anyone who's non student or faculty or maintenance. And it is illegal to own a firearm in Chicago. There's no way anyone could get one into a Chicago college building, impossible for the art institute.

Again, I feel he'll be the most protected president to date.

HungLikeJesus · 11-05-2008, 03:42 PM

It's illegal to own a firearm in Chicago? How's that working out for you?

bartman · 11-05-2008, 03:47 PM

They can never catch the ppl that possess firearms. Only the ones who own them.

Shawnee123 · 11-05-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

It's illegal to own a firearm in Chicago? How's that working out for you?

You insensitive bastard. Chicago was killed on 9/11...hence the song "The Night Chicago Died."

Sheesh

Bullitt · 11-05-2008, 03:58 PM

Not well. Chicago loses more black kids due to firearm deaths than the city loses soldiers in Iraq.

Aliantha · 11-05-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I had this overwhelming fear that it was somehow going to happen during the acceptance speech last night. I could barely watch it, I was so convinced.

Me too

Aliantha · 11-05-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

While it certainly is a concern, I think too many of you have been reading thriller type novels. I admitted to this same fear elsewhere on this board, but I right now am too busy being proud of the American people for electing the first Black President of the US. WE've come a long way from the ku lux klan, lynching and the civil rights era in the South. Yep, those elements are still out there, but the Secret Service is very good, and I am not going to let anything mar my pleasure on this day. I finally have regained some faith in my fellow Americans.

Ooooh, and Colorado is now a Blue State. YAY! Take that you born agains in Colorado Springs and conservative West Slope ranchers!

From an outsiders perspective, Obama is the most charismatic man to be the American President since JFK, and look what happened to him? The two have won their seats in such similar circumstances also. (a big part of that being support from the liberal entertainment industry)

That's the main reason for my thoughts on this matter. My other thought is that he should stay out of convertibles and away from grassy knolls.

I think you need to have a bit of a look at the history books Sam.

Bruce 9012 · 11-05-2008, 05:13 PM

Thanks for seeing hollywood for what it is

Cicero · 11-05-2008, 05:15 PM

I think he'll get lucky, despite several attempts. Yes, that is the positive end.

Aliantha · 11-05-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce 9012

Thanks for seeing hollywood for what it is

A liberal entertainment industry? You say that like it's a bad thing.

11-05-2008, 01:06 PM	#46
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Interesting. I'm not sure those were really there as protection -- they seem t leave a lot of the guy uncovered. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

11-05-2008, 01:27 PM	#48
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	How about from where the guy took this picture? If he's in photo range, he's in bullet range. (I don't know why I'm arguing about this -- I think he'll be fine.) __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

11-05-2008, 03:42 PM	#52
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	It's illegal to own a firearm in Chicago? How's that working out for you? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

11-05-2008, 03:58 PM	#55
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Not well. Chicago loses more black kids due to firearm deaths than the city loses soldiers in Iraq. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

11-05-2008, 05:15 PM	#59
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I think he'll get lucky, despite several attempts. Yes, that is the positive end. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

11-05-2008, 01:17 PM	#47
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I don't know Chicago at all, so maybe those of you who have been and know this park can comment better, but I just went to Google Earth and looked at the satellite imagery for this park. The buildings behind Obama in the picture are 1 full mile away from Obama. A telephoto lens makes them appear to be closer than they are. To the left of the picture, in the direction that Obama is facing, are closer buildings that are not as tall. (They are out of frame.) They are about 500 meters away. According to Merc, a sniper could reach Obama from there, but the plexiglass protects him from that direction. Behind the photographer, there is a large museum about 300 meters away. It shields him from that direction. And to the right in the picture, behind Obama, is the lake. I think they did a pretty good job of shielding him.

11-05-2008, 01:42 PM	#49
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The press go through security. But yeah, that would be more of an "inside job" and that's the only way I can see anyone getting close enough. I think he'll be fine. (of course, I did obsess enough about it to go look at Google Earth.)

11-05-2008, 02:48 PM	#51
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	As a Chicagoan, Grant Park is on the shoreline basically, surrounded by the art institute and Roosevelt U, Columbia College of Chicago and other buildings that would have been WELL covered by security. To the north is Millenium park, again no chance for anybody. No one has a chance on the ground, the only feasible chance would be on a boat but I'm sure coast guard was there with helicopter coverage, I heard choppers in the speech. The college buildings don't allow anyone who's non student or faculty or maintenance. And it is illegal to own a firearm in Chicago. There's no way anyone could get one into a Chicago college building, impossible for the art institute. Again, I feel he'll be the most protected president to date.

11-05-2008, 03:47 PM	#53
bartman not really bart Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 67	They can never catch the ppl that possess firearms. Only the ones who own them.

11-05-2008, 05:13 PM	#58
Bruce 9012 Living in the blast crater Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dayton, Oh Posts: 123	Thanks for seeing hollywood for what it is

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