Celebrate the Death Day

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Is Che still seen as a hero by the disaffected youth of America?
I'm a little surprised.

Yes, go to any widely known leftists site. I would also be interested to see how many of these kids would react if faced with a true revolution that would undermine their current social status.

Originally Posted by Ibram

revolution - good.
violent revolution complete with killing sprees and thuggery - bad.

This post is too vague to fully tell but keep in mind that a non-violent revolution will have very little effect on a power hungry, usually violent oppressor. Change can happen non-violently within a system (see United States), but to completely overthrow a system, one has to be willing to use violence to get it.

For example, lets say we have a stable caste system set up in a country with two levels, an upper caste and lower caste. In order to get rid of the caste system, violence will be necessary (disregarding outside forces). But, as you pointed out, there is a HUGE difference between killing the counter-revolutionaries who will fight to defend the current system and just killing the entire upper caste.


For the record, I have no interest in Che.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Change can happen non-violently within a system (see United States), but to completely overthrow a system, one has to be willing to use violence to get it.

The only problem I see with that philosophical approach is that the state is usually willing to up that anti and answer the violence with violence. Hence the all to common development of quasi-state sponsorship of death squads. Esp common in Central and South America.