March 9, 2008 Amazing Chopper Pilot

[monster]

You need Amazing Chopper Dogs, of course.....

[xoxoxoBruce]

They're not chopper dogs, these are chopper dogs.

[classicman]

thanks guys - this is better than that other thread we.... nevermind.

[monster]

Of course chopped dogs would be more of a Friday IOTD, right?

[xoxoxoBruce]

They weeded out the blind paratroopers, because they kept landing on their dogs.

[rupip]

as a non-US-citizens this discussion/dispute was really exciting to follow and gave interesting insights.

maybe you know the latin saying: "in vino veritas" - translated: drunk people tell the truth. same goes for a certain degree of agitation. words and facts come out that normally stay inside.

I come from a country that started WWII and - thank god - lost it. So I think it is not my right to judge or evaluate who is right or wrong.
It is interesting that loser-nations of WWII (Germany, Austria, Italy, ...) and their citizens behave very differently than winner-nation (US, UK, Russia, F) in terms of aggression, defense, fight against terror, fight for power and ressources,…

- just a little comment - definitly NOT wanting to start the discussion again.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Interesting observation, rupip. It makes me wonder if the attitude of the people of the nations that lost, is because they lost, or why they lost?

[rupip]

I´d definitly say because they lost.
in school and every-day life we - im 34 now - learn that something like the NS (nazi)-regime or WW2 must never ever happen again. in every german or austrian family there are stories of grandfathers and uncles being killed or having killed.

there is something like a collective guilt, a strong awareness of our families (fathers, mothers, grandfathers/mothers) having started or participated or at least not been able to prevent a regime that killed millions of people and started a war that killed 50- 60 millions.

And millions of peoples died in our own or neighbouring countries - so the felt impact is much higher than fighting abroad - with no civilian death at home.

coming to Iraq: 100.000 dead and millions starving and living in fear somewhere on this planet is much easier to handle than at home. (and I am not saying they had a better life before!)

maybe that makes the difference between winner and loser-countries.

but enough for now - it is hard to discuss such topics on a forum, even harder if it is not your mothertongue that you are using...

[xoxoxoBruce]

It may be difficult, but you've done a damn good job of explaining your point, clearly and concisely.... thank you.