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Old 01-01-2008, 05:50 PM   #1
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You are a liar. I'm not stating opinions, I'm stating facts. I'm not "twisting" or "cherry picking" facts. I'm stating them clearly and in no uncertain terms.

The U.S. Government has absolutely no Constitutional authority over immigration and all federal immigration laws are unconstitutional, illegal, and therefore null and void.

That's a fact. It's not twisted. It's not wrong.

I've provided proof from the Constitution itself which PROHIBITS the federal government from having "implied powers" or from legislating anything not specifically enumerated in the Constitution.

Any immigration laws created by Congress are irrelevant, including U.S. Code. Quote them all you like because they are unconstitutional. The Constitution is above all other laws in America, above the Congress, above the President, and above the Supreme Court.

Once again, these are not opinions, they are FACTS and they are stated clearly without "twisting" or "cherry picking" them.

None of the undocumented immigrants in America is violating any Constitutionally valid laws, and none of them are "illegal". Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar and an idiot....period.

You can lie about these people being "illegal" all you like. You can lie about the federal government having any authority over immigration. You can lie about most of the anti-immigrant crowd not being racist or xenophobic, but that's all they are...lies.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. The INDISPUTABLE FACT is the federal government has absolutely zero authority to create or enforce immigration laws and every single federal immigration law ever created is unconstitutional, illegal, and therefore null and void the moment it was created without the requirement of judicial review. End of story.

Anyone who supports any federal immigration laws is anti-American, and is spitting in the faces of our founders and supports violating the Constitution. If they are a veteran like myself, they are also a traitor to America and a scumbag.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:00 PM   #2
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You are a liar. I'm not stating opinions, I'm stating facts. I'm not "twisting" or "cherry picking" facts. I'm stating them clearly and in no uncertain terms.

The U.S. Government has absolutely no Constitutional authority over immigration and all federal immigration laws are unconstitutional, illegal, and therefore null and void.

That's a fact. It's not twisted. It's not wrong.

I've provided proof from the Constitution itself which PROHIBITS the federal government from having "implied powers" or from legislating anything not specifically enumerated in the Constitution.

Any immigration laws created by Congress are irrelevant, including U.S. Code. Quote them all you like because they are unconstitutional. The Constitution is above all other laws in America, above the Congress, above the President, and above the Supreme Court.

Once again, these are not opinions, they are FACTS and they are stated clearly without "twisting" or "cherry picking" them.

None of the undocumented immigrants in America is violating any Constitutionally valid laws, and none of them are "illegal". Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar and an idiot....period.

You can lie about these people being "illegal" all you like. You can lie about the federal government having any authority over immigration. You can lie about most of the anti-immigrant crowd not being racist or xenophobic, but that's all they are...lies.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. The INDISPUTABLE FACT is the federal government has absolutely zero authority to create or enforce immigration laws and every single federal immigration law ever created is unconstitutional, illegal, and therefore null and void the moment it was created without the requirement of judicial review. End of story.

Anyone who supports any federal immigration laws is anti-American, and is spitting in the faces of our founders and supports violating the Constitution. If they are a veteran like myself, they are also a traitor to America and a scumbag.
All of those people are completely and utterly illegal and should be thrown out on their ears, ok well not all of the illegals, but many of them. To think that the federal government cannot inact laws that deal with immigration shows the fantasy world you live in. I fully support the federal government in their efforts to round up and detain people who have broken our laws. There is nothing you can do about the federal government and their efforts, which is why you probably like to come here and exclaim your fantasy about how you believe the government can work within the framework of the Constitution. To bad you cannot support your notions and there is no way you could make such a legal case in a Federal Court. Have fun living your fantasy...

You sound like a child holding his breath crying and jumping up and down calling me a liar.... really pretty funny.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:05 PM   #3
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All of those people are completely and utterly illegal and should be thrown out on their ears, ok well not all of the illegals, but many of them. To think that the federal government cannot inact laws that deal with immigration shows the fantasy world you live in. I fully support the federal government in their efforts to round up and detain people who have broken our laws. There is nothing you can do about the federal government and their efforts, which is why you probably like to come here and exclaim your fantasy about how you believe the government can work within the framework of the Constitution. To bad you cannot support your notions and there is no way you could make such a legal case in a Federal Court. Have fun living your fantasy...
You prove nothing but your own stupidity, your disdain of the Constitution, and the fact that you are less deserving to be in America than the worst one of them. You claim there's nothing I can do, but my friends Smith & Wesson, and myself say otherwise. Don't be so stupid as to think I can't or won't take up arms in the defense of these people who are LEGALLY entering the United States without documentation or checking in with Uncle Sam. No pull your head out of your ass you fucking idiot.

You don't like the facts, so you try to ignore them. You think because your personal opinion is that the government should have certain powers, it does regardless of the Constitution. Unlike you, I served in the military and took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and I still take that oath seriously. You spit in the faces of our founders and if I were in the same room with you, I'd spit in your face and you'd do nothing about it other than cry like a little bitch.

Also, I didn't merely call you a liar, I proved it. Anyone who says these people are here illegally is a lying asshole, and unworthy to call themselves American. They should be deported to make room for the undocumented and LEGAL Mexican immigrants who truly understand the American dream.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:08 PM   #4
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:10 PM   #5
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You prove nothing but your own stupidity, your disdain of the Constitution, and the fact that you are less deserving to be in America than the worst one of them. You claim there's nothing I can do, but my friends Smith & Wesson, and myself say otherwise. Don't be so stupid as to think I can't or won't take up arms in the defense of these people who are LEGALLY entering the United States without documentation or checking in with Uncle Sam. No pull your head out of your ass you fucking idiot.

You don't like the facts, so you try to ignore them. You think because your personal opinion is that the government should have certain powers, it does regardless of the Constitution. Unlike you, I served in the military and took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and I still take that oath seriously. You spit in the faces of our founders and if I were in the same room with you, I'd spit in your face and you'd do nothing about it other than cry like a little bitch.
You lose again. Your argument fails so you fall to personal attacks and threats. Another sure sign that your argument has no merit and you have no cogent argument to make. You are a pretty funny guy.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:14 PM   #6
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Unlike you, I served in the military and took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and I still take that oath seriously.
I served 20+ years and retired, how many did you serve? You again make ass-u-mptions about things you know little about.

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They should be deported to make room for the undocumented and LEGAL Mexican immigrants who truly understand the American dream.
You must be a Mexican or the son of an illegal Mexican...
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:16 PM   #7
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I served 20+ years and retired, how many did you serve? You again make ass-u-mptions about things you know little about.
I assumed you were in the military, but you didn't take your oath seriously or you wouldn't be supporting unconstitutional laws, jackass.

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You must be a Mexican or the son of an illegal Mexican...
No, I'm the offspring of Irish immigrants who were no better or worse than the undocumented and LEGAL Mexican immigrants who came here last night and who are no different than the sorry ass immigrants you are the offspring of.
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ROTFLMAO!!!



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