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Old 12-04-2007, 11:42 AM   #1
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Thanks Urbane!
But I was thinking more along the lines of software and hardware. The new "arms".
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:47 PM   #2
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Thanks Urbane!
But I was thinking more along the lines of software and hardware. The new "arms".
Hmm. Yes. Might you expand on this some more? Got some notions of what shape it might take?

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You have more of an idea than some around here do of what it takes to keep and sustain liberty, and secure the economy from depradations. Criminal assaults and disrespect of property rights amount to leaks in the pipeline of economics.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:54 PM   #3
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The first part of the Second Amendment suggests to me that some form of obligation to the State exists for people who own firearms. I am not sure what that obligation might be. Maybe the owners of those firearms can be required to join a well-regulated militia on request. Maybe they are required to surrender them on demand to the police (who are themselves a well-regulated militia) when needed to assist with the apprehension of criminals.

Whatever the exact obligations are, in my opinion too much emphasis has been placed on the second part of the amendment (the rights conferred by the amendment) and too little has been paid to the first part (the obligations that go with the rights).
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Old 12-05-2007, 08:10 PM   #4
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The first part of the Second Amendment suggests to me that some form of obligation to the State exists for people who own firearms. I am not sure what that obligation might be. Maybe the owners of those firearms can be required to join a well-regulated militia on request. Maybe they are required to surrender them on demand to the police (who are themselves a well-regulated militia) when needed to assist with the apprehension of criminals.

Whatever the exact obligations are, in my opinion too much emphasis has been placed on the second part of the amendment (the rights conferred by the amendment) and too little has been paid to the first part (the obligations that go with the rights).

The obligation (or duty) in question is to defend Americans even against the American government if necessary.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:48 PM   #5
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Hmm. Yes. Might you expand on this some more? Got some notions of what shape it might take?



[Little-Man-from-the-Draft-Board voice]"We-ell -- I wouldn't say that." [/voice]

You have more of an idea than some around here do of what it takes to keep and sustain liberty, and secure the economy from depradations. Criminal assaults and disrespect of property rights amount to leaks in the pipeline of economics.


I'll pm ya!
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