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Old 06-11-2007, 08:03 PM   #1
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clapclapclapclap!
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:06 PM   #2
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Goddamnit Jim, now you're giving Steve Dallas the clap... you're evil.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:10 PM   #3
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I see my name being posted, which of course interests me, but I'm too lazy to read the thread.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:51 PM   #4
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Jeb, I understand what you are saying. If you don't mind, I think I can provide a bit of perspective.

First of all, thanks for being honest about what you feel. It takes guts to reveal your thoughts and feelings in such an open way, without a defense mechanism already built in. Good on ya.

Secondly, I am familiar with your posts, yet, so I have no real context from which to address your specific situation.

But!

Here's what I see:

The grammar and spelling thing gets irritating to some people. It doesn't bother me, much because I see much worse at my workplace everyday. Some people find it more difficult to see the specific meaning in what you are saying if it isn't articulated well. The nature of text communication is problematic in that way.

Because it is difficult to accurately express *anything* in its full form using text (unless, of course we all write 150 page dissertations) we're all going to take things the wrong way, once in a while. On a message board, there is no body language or facial expression. No amount of fun little emoticons can capture and express human emotions and the dynamics around them. I truly believe that 85% of the shit storms that happen around here can be attributed to that. Well, maybe 80%. Anyway, quite a few. If you feel yourself getting pissed off, or hurt, let it go and come back in a few days.

These, I think are the main reasons why it is so easy to think you aren't part of the "popular" crowd. Despite all the "<enter cellar user name> is an asshat" and "Let's see more of <enter cellar user name>" threads, there is no popularity contest. It's much easier than that. Here are some ideas on how to be more involved in the cellar:

- Post a lot of interesting points.
- Don't call names.
- Be funny. No matter what kind of sense of humor you have, someone is bound to think you are funny if you let that part of yourself go, here.
- Post a lot of mindless fun in the Nothingland forum.
- Get to know other members and what they like, how you can relate, etc.
- Think of the most interesting thing that happened to you, this week and start a discussion about it.
- Find a picture of something you care about and start a thread about it.

Of course, those are all just ideas. I don't make the rules around here (and wouldn't want to.)

I like to make a game of getting my post count to a certain point, because that means I am more involved. It's a personal thing, to me. Not a popularity thing. And you can see by my post count, that in 5 years, I haven't been a heavy poster, really. But that is just me.

I think the investment you make in this place determines what you get out of it....(maybe there is some famous quote like that?)

So, anyway, Jeb, Cloud, Fresh and whoever else is new around here, I hope you stick around, because the vast personality differences are what make this forum so interesting.

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Old 06-11-2007, 09:00 PM   #5
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Jeboduuza -- I think you've answered you own question. Over 60 responses in just a few hours. That's impressive.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:22 PM   #6
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Group acceptance is such a powerful thing to some people that they just can't get past it. Do they like me? I couldn't stand it if they didn't! Do they want me around? I really really hope they do!

But to other people, this kind of need is non-existent; they just seem to present themselves, and if you don't like them, it's your problem.

Is it better to be in group A or group B?
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:26 PM   #7
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Group acceptance is such a powerful thing to some people that they just can't get past it. Do they like me? I couldn't stand it if they didn't! Do they want me around? I really really hope they do!

But to other people, this kind of need is non-existent; they just seem to present themselves, and if you don't like them, it's your problem.

Is it better to be in group A or group B?
UT -- this sounds like a good topic for a poll.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:23 PM   #8
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This is like the "examined life" versus not conundrum.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:24 PM   #9
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:28 PM   #10
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pssst! this is how you fit in:

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GROUP W
Group W for wannabes, who wanna be me but ain't so they cry theyselves to sleep.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:35 PM   #11
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I think it's important to understand that most people are on some level of 'newbie-ness' Most people are trying to just find footing. Some of us arn't even a year old yet. You might get some clues by reading join dates.ie( like hawkeye for one) It is what is. There are no secret rites to get in. You don't have to kiss anyones ass..promise.


...anyway.
I wanted to make a separate 'welcome' to the newbies but I didn't want it to seem like an attention seeking thread which isn't where I am comming from. SO I just want to tell all you new ones that you are noticed. I'd throw you a welcome party with cake and balloons if it make you feel better. I feel your frustration.

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Old 06-11-2007, 11:35 PM   #12
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Correct spelling. That's going to take effort for a computer game nerd like me.

And I use AIM a lot, so it will be doubly hard, how do other AIMers solve "txtspk" which I never heard of until now. It was just regular lingo to me.

Thanks for all the insightful comments everyone. If I'll be an active user, partime or just watch is all up in the air.

And I have to confess. I am lumberjim. This is a faux account I created just to stir up mayhem. I created a personal hater, just for this reason.

Just kidding.

Or am I?
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:39 PM   #13
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And I use AIM a lot, so it will be doubly hard, how do other AIMers solve "txtspk" which I never heard of until now. It was just regular lingo to me.
Pretend you're writing it for your English teacher.

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Or am I?
It sounds like something he'd do. On the other hand, I'm highly doubtful that LJ would know "pwn" and "5h17".
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:38 PM   #14
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oh fuck, i hope not.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:43 PM   #15
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oh fuck, i hope not.
You hope he isn't kidding, or you hope he isn't really another one of your personalities? Sounds like a personal problem, LJ.

Take a deep breath...relax....now, try to recall the last thing you typed on the computer....that's it....

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