US opens its doors at last to 7,000 Iraqi refugees - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 06-03-2007, 12:33 PM

These millions of people left when the invasion started? Why didn't they go back when it was mission accomplished?
The only fighting after that, was in response to insurgents attacks. So it's not us that's keeping them away, it's their countryman.
If the US pulls out, how many would go back? Were they part of the ruling minority under Saddam? If so they can never go back.

TheMercenary · 06-03-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

These millions of people left when the invasion started? Why didn't they go back when it was mission accomplished?
The only fighting after that, was in response to insurgents attacks. So it's not us that's keeping them away, it's their countryman.
If the US pulls out, how many would go back? Were they part of the ruling minority under Saddam? If so they can never go back.

Note the term "ruling minority"... The majority have freedom of movement. I do believe, at great agnst to the UN, people are redistributing within their country. An unfortunate but survival tactic in times of civil war.

Aliantha · 06-03-2007, 10:04 PM

There are plenty of peace loving muslims in the world.

TheMercenary · 06-03-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

There are plenty of peace loving muslims in the world.

Note term "radical". There are about 1.4 billion Muslims in the world. The majority are not the problem. It is the radical minority and the silent middle that bare the burden.

Aliantha · 06-03-2007, 10:13 PM

radicals of any religion are a problem.

The problem is the inference which is drawn upon hearing the phrase 'radical muslims'.

TheMercenary · 06-03-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

The problem is the inference which is drawn upon hearing the phrase 'radical muslims'.

Not my problem. That is a problem for Muslims in general, not non-Muslims.

Aliantha · 06-03-2007, 10:17 PM

So now you're saying radical muslims are a problem only for mainstream muslims to deal with?

TheMercenary · 06-04-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

So now you're saying radical muslims are a problem only for mainstream muslims to deal with?

Well, no we unfortunately have to deal with them as well. The problem of "the inference which is drawn upon hearing the phrase 'radical muslims'" is one which needs to be delt with by the Muslim community, not by non-Muslims.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-04-2007, 06:22 AM

I'll bet there was more than 4 million people that wished they could escape Saddam.

You can't escape the fact that all these terrorist attacks going on around the world have been perpetrated by Radical Muslims. They are a problem.... for everyone.

tw · 06-05-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I'll bet there was more than 4 million people that wished they could escape Saddam.

They could have left then just as they can leave now. Saddam was not loved. But in major parts of Iraq, he was not despised - in direct contradiction to propaganda in America.

Even the Kurds were doing business deals with Saddam. So much business that Kurds would fight among themselves for that business with Saddam.

Of course, within a month of the Kuwait liberation war, Saddam completely restored electricity. Except for one day, Americans have never been able to exceed the electrical supply provided by Saddam.

This does not go unnoticed by the Iraqi who have no idea why Americans cannot even supply power - but Green zones are brightly lit every night. The air conditioner works every hour of every day in the Green zones. Iraqis know the difference between a dictator and an occupying force that makes life even worse.

Same people who could have left under Saddam's rule are leaving by the millions due to Americans. We even lie about it - call it a coalition. And still cannot even provide electricity.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-05-2007, 08:24 PM

But Saddam didn't have thousands of people trying to stop him from delivering electricity.

Aliantha · 06-05-2007, 01:20 AM

Yes, they are everyone's problem.

Undertoad · 06-05-2007, 08:53 PM

Because if they did he'd cut off their hand.

Aliantha · 06-06-2007, 01:13 AM

OK, maybe normalcy wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said, 'so they can live without worrying about being shot by one of the many different factions shooting guns within Iraq at the moment'.

monster · 06-06-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

OK, maybe normalcy wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said, 'so they can live without worrying about being shot by one of the many different factions shooting guns within Iraq at the moment'.

and instead go to school and get shot?

(yup, cheap shot)

06-03-2007, 12:33 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	These millions of people left when the invasion started? Why didn't they go back when it was mission accomplished? The only fighting after that, was in response to insurgents attacks. So it's not us that's keeping them away, it's their countryman. If the US pulls out, how many would go back? Were they part of the ruling minority under Saddam? If so they can never go back. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-03-2007, 10:04 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	There are plenty of peace loving muslims in the world. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-03-2007, 10:13 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	radicals of any religion are a problem. The problem is the inference which is drawn upon hearing the phrase 'radical muslims'. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-03-2007, 10:17 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	So now you're saying radical muslims are a problem only for mainstream muslims to deal with? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-04-2007, 06:22 AM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'll bet there was more than 4 million people that wished they could escape Saddam. You can't escape the fact that all these terrorist attacks going on around the world have been perpetrated by Radical Muslims. They are a problem.... for everyone. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-05-2007, 08:24 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But Saddam didn't have thousands of people trying to stop him from delivering electricity. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-05-2007, 01:20 AM	#12
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Yes, they are everyone's problem. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Because if they did he'd cut off their hand.

06-06-2007, 01:13 AM	#14
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	OK, maybe normalcy wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said, 'so they can live without worrying about being shot by one of the many different factions shooting guns within Iraq at the moment'. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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