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Old 05-26-2007, 04:18 AM   #1
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Now, Pierce, look into just which part of the British Mandate was to be allocated to the Jews: did it or did it not extend all the way to the Jordan, and did it or did it not include the Gaza as well?

Well, I'm not going to argue incapable, Bruce and Dana -- but there's a mighty strong case for allergic, as you know.

The Israelis have never to my knowledge negotiated in bad faith. By contrast, if it weren't for bad faith, the Palestinians would never have negotiated in any faith at all. This largely eliminates ANY sympathy I'd have for the Palestinian Arabs.

Peoples have been pushed around by migrations before, through all of history. The only thing different about the Israel-Palestine situation is that no Arab nation is making the slightest effort to give displaced Palestinians a new home and a new prosperity, despite some several Arab nations being positively aslosh with wealth! Would Mohammed approve? I don't think so -- he'd've found this course of action highly uncharitable.

I find the actions of all the surrounding Arab nations uncreative and utterly despicable, and not supportable by any argument that they were there first, since they were not. Look far enough back in the local Muslim population and you're going to find quite a few Jews anyway. Have they thought of that? -- I don't think so.
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Old 05-26-2007, 05:09 PM   #2
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The Israelis have never to my knowledge negotiated in bad faith.
So you are rewriting history again? When negotiations for a peaceful settlement were negotiated between Arafat and Barak, then Israelis promised to return with a detailed map for a suggested border. This demand by Arafat because so many previous agreements, without every detail stated, were recinded on those missing details. But Barak's negoitation team included Sharon. Sharon extremists needed such negotiations to break down. When Barak returned to the table, Israel only had a map sketched on the back of an envelope. Bad faith negotiations. Arafat - as he should have due to bad faith - no map - walked out.

So you forgot to read that history? Oh. That was Urbane Guerrilla making the claim.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:26 PM   #3
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Well, I'm not going to argue incapable, Bruce and Dana -- but there's a mighty strong case for allergic, as you know.
Allergic? How did the get the state of Israel in the first place?

Hint - I am not talking about modern history.

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Old 05-27-2007, 10:35 PM   #4
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Allergic? How did the get the state of Israel in the first place?

Hint - I am not talking about modern history.
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