Shooting Rekindles Issues of Gun Rights and Restrictions

[Hime]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The "ugly gun" issue rises to the surface every time something like this happens. Typical. I have a few SKS's, they are fun to shoot. Events such as the shootings at VT just give the gun-grabbers foder to pedal their nonsense.

People should not have guns because they are "fun," they should have them if and because they need them. I don't believe that anyone really needs a fully automatic rifle, who isn't fighting in a war.

And RK, why shouldn't I refer to men and women? This is a feminist issue. People I have argued about this with in the past have said that women being raped is preferable to the risk of shootings, and I believe that that is a concern for those of us who seek to eliminate/reduce sexual assault.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Hime

People should not have guns because they are "fun," they should have them if and because they need them. I don't believe that anyone really needs a fully automatic rifle, who isn't fighting in a war.

And RK, why shouldn't I refer to men and women? This is a feminist issue. People I have argued about this with in the past have said that women being raped is preferable to the risk of shootings, and I believe that that is a concern for those of us who seek to eliminate/reduce sexual assault.

Well I would disagree with you on the first point, because shooting them is actually great fun and a fun hobby. There are many people who shoot just for the shear joy of it. I don't know if you are not familiar with the laws in the US about ownership of "fully automatic rifles", but it is a very difficult thing to do. Don't be fooled by the press or anyone else telling you that if you own an AK/AK variant/ or SKS implies that the rifle is fully automatic, because they are not. They are all semi-automatic. A huge difference.

[Hime]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well I would disagree with you on the first point, because shooting them is actually great fun and a fun hobby. There are many people who shoot just for the shear joy of it. I don't know if you are not familiar with the laws in the US about ownership of "fully automatic rifles", but it is a very difficult thing to do. Don't be fooled by the press or anyone else telling you that if you own an AK/AK variant/ or SKS implies that the rifle is fully automatic, because they are not. They are all semi-automatic. A huge difference.

I know. I have shot guns before, when visiting my fiance's family in Tennessee. His stepfather and uncle are hunters. It was a lot of fun, but I don't believe that the fun is worth the risk of accidents in most cases. I think that people should have guns, if they have them, for practical reasons (hunting and self-defense).

Originally Posted by Hime

I know. I have shot guns before, when visiting my fiance's family in Tennessee. His stepfather and uncle are hunters. It was a lot of fun, but I don't believe that the fun is worth the risk of accidents in most cases. I think that people should have guns, if they have them, for practical reasons (hunting and self-defense).

So, you think it is your place to remove target shooting, the cross country skiing with shooting, trap and others from the Olympics and all other shooting sports from the world?
What an elitist.

[Hime]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

So, you think it is your place to remove target shooting, the cross country skiing with shooting, trap and others from the Olympics and all other shooting sports from the world?
What an elitist.

I don't understand how pointing out that something is dangerous makes me an elitist. I'm sure driving drunk is fun, too.

And of course it isn't "my place," I'm just saying on the internet that I think that's how it should be.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Hime

I know. I have shot guns before, when visiting my fiance's family in Tennessee. His stepfather and uncle are hunters. It was a lot of fun, but I don't believe that the fun is worth the risk of accidents in most cases. I think that people should have guns, if they have them, for practical reasons (hunting and self-defense).

There are many more gun owners than there are accidents. Accidents are rare when compared to the number of gun owners.