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[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

That is full of bias and bullshit. I strongly disagree. It's getting to the point where I'm almost offended as an American. Where do you hail from that is so much better than the USA?

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

That is full of bias and bullshit. I strongly disagree. It's getting to the point where I'm almost offended as an American. Where do you hail from that is so much better than the USA?

There is nothing biased about it at all. It's just reality. I'm from hong kong and when I moved to america I could see right away how bad the crime is. All one has to do is sit and watch the local and national news.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

There is nothing biased about it at all. It's just reality. I'm from hong kong and when I moved to america I could see right away how bad the crime is. All one has to do is sit and watch the local and national news.

You obviously don't know how American news works. These stories make networks. It's not like China where the government HIDES all their scandals and dirty laundered money. Not to mention communist gov't and how they "intervene" with people who don't believe in what they want. You want to talk about violence? How many police beatings happen A DAY in China, to civilians? I have mannnnnny Chinese friends. I know what happens there. They visit China so I get the stories. Maybe in your utopia of Hong Kong there is no violence (shyeah right, Triads anyone?) but here in America there is freedom of PRESS where stories are heard, especially the BAD ones that make networks get coverage. Please keep your American bashing to yourself before you know the whole deal with this country.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

You obviously don't know how American news works. These stories make networks. It's not like China where the government HIDES all their scandals and dirty laundered money.

You would be suprised on how much the US hides.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You would be suprised on how much the US hides.

A significant amount less than China.
Who are we kidding. My friend went there on a missionary trip and heard the nighlty police beatings of civilians in the village. Nightly! I don't think that was in the newspaper the next morning.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

You obviously don't know how American news works. These stories make networks. It's not like China where the government HIDES all their scandals and dirty laundered money. Not too mention communist gov't and how they "intervene" with people who don't believe in what they want. You want to talk about violence? How many police beatings happen A DAY in China? I have mannnnnny Chinese friends. I know what happens there. They visit China so I get the stories. Maybe in your utopia of Hong Kong there is no violence (shyeah right, Triads anyone?) but here in America there is freedom of PRESS where stories are heard, especially the BAD ones that make networks get coverage. Please keep your American bashing to yourself before you know the whole deal with this country.

I can't speak for mainland china because I have never lived there, I can only compare hong kong to america. In fact you can compare any major american city to hong kong sar and you will see the violence in the american city much more higher. And of course there is violence in hong kong, there is no such place on earth where people live that there is no violence. But the crime in hong kong, especially violent crime, is extremely low compared to america and hong kong is one of the freest places in the world to live. So tell me what is hong kong doing right and america doing wrong?

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

I can't speak for mainland china because I have never lived there, I can only compare hong kong to america. In fact you can compare any major american city to hong kong sar and you will see the violence in the american city much more higher. And of course there is violence in hong kong, there is no such place on earth where people live that there is no violence. But the crime in hong kong, especially violent crime, is extremely low compared to america and hong kong is one of the freest places in the world to live. So tell me what is hong kong doing right and america doing wrong?

Show me the stats, I refuse to degrade American cities based on a 16 year olds opinion. Are you one of those rich fobs who has never seen violence and wear aeropostle and american eagle because it looks really American? I know because I know what fobs at my university are like. I don't think you know a thing about American cities. I'm from Chicago and have been to NYC, Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco, Orlando, Miami and Atlanta. Please don't try to act like you know all about "major american cities." And you didn't even address what I said about American press. Since you didn't say anything I'll assume Hong Kong people are all out of the know. Well it's different here.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Show me the stats, I refuse to degrade American cities based on a 16 year olds opinion. Are you one of those rich fobs who has never seen violence and wear aeropostle and american eagle because it looks really American?

Ok I'm not sure what any of this means but here are your statistics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_murder_rate

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I know because I know what fobs at my university are like. I don't think you know a thing about American cities. I'm from Chicago and have been to NYC, Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco, Orlando, Miami and Atlanta. Please don't try to act like you know all about "major american cities." And you didn't even address what I said about American press. Since you didn't say anything I'll assume Hong Kong people are all out of the know. Well it's different here.

What about the american press? Hong kong has free press too. If there is a murder it will be reported just like in america so I don't see your point.
If you think I'm just america bashing then take the crime rate of your favorite american city and compare it to hong kong and see what you find. See what the comparison in murder, rape, armed robbery, kidnapping is. Maybe you should pay attention to what goes on in your country instead of letting pride color your opinion.

"Hong Kong SAR has a low crime rate. Travelers should exercise caution when in congested areas and pay particular attention to personal belongings while in crowded markets and while traveling on public transportation. Violent crime, though rare, does occur."
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1136.html

That is from your own state department regarding hong kong. Can you honestly say violent crime is rare in any major american city?

[jinx]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

But you realize that US violent crime rates have been falling for your whole life, right?

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by jinx

But you realize that US violent crime rates have been falling for your whole life, right?

So? It still doesn't change the fact that crime is rampant in america.