Well that's really helpful Tony

DanaC · 04-12-2007, 06:47 PM

In the Uk we have a serious problem with racism. Very serious. And what's really helpful, is when the Prime Minister decides to speak out and attribute knife and gun crime amongst our youngsters, to Black culture and the black community.

What about the kid in my ward who died last month when her sister stabbed her? she wasn't black. What about the lad who died in my ward a few months ago, stabbed by a friend in an argument.....he wasn't black. Neither of the perpetrators were black...neither of the victims were. We have a problem in the UK with children who seem to live on the wrong side of a social disconnect. It is affecting white children and black children. It primarily affects the poorer communities. Now.....where I live, we have very few black people, so the pooer communuties are white or asian. In inner-city London the poorer communuties are often black. Tony has put his London only blinkers on and come to the conclusion that a social problem affecting poor communities is in fact a cultural problem affecting black people.

Great. Dead helpful that Tony, whilst we're trying to combat extreme racism in the UK. *applauds*

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6548403.stm

footfootfoot · 04-12-2007, 06:54 PM

there you go again, arguing the exception...

DanaC · 04-12-2007, 06:56 PM

exceptions.....

DanaC · 04-12-2007, 06:57 PM

There've been so many instances of white kids stabbing or shooting other youngsters, or 'happy slapping' the class nerd. But nobody ever says it's something inherent in white culture.

duck_duck · 04-12-2007, 07:12 PM

Poverty = crime no matter the race. In a society if the majority of impoverished people are of a specific race then chances are it is because of that society and not that race.
Take a look at american past. They would do something called redlining in minority neighborhood.

DanaC · 04-12-2007, 07:19 PM

Well put. what's redlining?

duck_duck · 04-12-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Well put. what's redlining?

Redlining is where they take a neighborhood, usually a minority one, and deny loans, services or just make them so expensive nobody can afford them.
Here is the wiki definitions and what they told us in school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

footfootfoot · 04-12-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

exceptions.....

a wee jest

DanaC · 04-12-2007, 08:23 PM

sorry 3foot. I must have set my humour radar to too low a setting ;P

DanaC · 04-12-2007, 08:28 PM

I got into a conversation with an NF supporter today. It's put me in a bad mood about anything to do with race :P

I figured when i sawe the fuck off big St Georges flag plastered across his garage that I may be dealing with a BNP man but when I asked who he supported he said NF (National Front. The original british nazis, more right wing than the BNP who sprang from their loins, consider the BNP to have sold out because they have softened their stance on forced repatriation of all non-white and have replaced it with the promise of 'peace walls' to divide the non'whites from the whites). I asked him if his wife would also be able to answer some questions on voting habits and he said

"She's too busy cooking"

I'll bet. They aren't known for their reconstructed view of their women folk. Firm belief that a woman's role is to a) cook and clean and b) raise a new generation of blond haired blue eyes little nazis to carry on the fight.

He's the first NF supporter I've come across for about 10 years. I didn't know there were any of em left :P Must have been a proper hardline activist back in the day to still list himself that way.

footfootfoot · 04-12-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

sorry 3foot. I must have set my humour radar to too low a setting ;P

I'm testing out my irony cloaking device

wolf · 04-12-2007, 11:03 PM

Oh, Tony Blair. I thought you were whinging about something UT did that I haven't read about yet.

footfootfoot · 04-12-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Oh, Tony Blair. I thought you were whinging about something UT did that I haven't read about yet.

who's tony blair?

Aliantha · 04-13-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

who's tony blair?

He's a Bush cronie...and a bit of a tool too. A lot like John Howard...cept he bats for the other side...of the political fence.

Happy Monkey · 04-13-2007, 02:47 PM

And he's a witch who lives in rural Virginia.

04-12-2007, 06:47 PM	#1
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well that's really helpful Tony In the Uk we have a serious problem with racism. Very serious. And what's really helpful, is when the Prime Minister decides to speak out and attribute knife and gun crime amongst our youngsters, to Black culture and the black community. What about the kid in my ward who died last month when her sister stabbed her? she wasn't black. What about the lad who died in my ward a few months ago, stabbed by a friend in an argument.....he wasn't black. Neither of the perpetrators were black...neither of the victims were. We have a problem in the UK with children who seem to live on the wrong side of a social disconnect. It is affecting white children and black children. It primarily affects the poorer communities. Now.....where I live, we have very few black people, so the pooer communuties are white or asian. In inner-city London the poorer communuties are often black. Tony has put his London only blinkers on and come to the conclusion that a social problem affecting poor communities is in fact a cultural problem affecting black people. Great. Dead helpful that Tony, whilst we're trying to combat extreme racism in the UK. applauds http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6548403.stm

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04-12-2007, 06:56 PM	#3
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	exceptions.....

04-12-2007, 06:57 PM	#4
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	There've been so many instances of white kids stabbing or shooting other youngsters, or 'happy slapping' the class nerd. But nobody ever says it's something inherent in white culture.

04-12-2007, 07:12 PM	#5
duck_duck Soul Duck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: over here Posts: 485	Poverty = crime no matter the race. In a society if the majority of impoverished people are of a specific race then chances are it is because of that society and not that race. Take a look at american past. They would do something called redlining in minority neighborhood.

04-12-2007, 07:19 PM	#6
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well put. what's redlining?

04-12-2007, 08:23 PM	#9
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	sorry 3foot. I must have set my humour radar to too low a setting ;P

04-12-2007, 08:28 PM	#10
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I got into a conversation with an NF supporter today. It's put me in a bad mood about anything to do with race :P I figured when i sawe the fuck off big St Georges flag plastered across his garage that I may be dealing with a BNP man but when I asked who he supported he said NF (National Front. The original british nazis, more right wing than the BNP who sprang from their loins, consider the BNP to have sold out because they have softened their stance on forced repatriation of all non-white and have replaced it with the promise of 'peace walls' to divide the non'whites from the whites). I asked him if his wife would also be able to answer some questions on voting habits and he said "She's too busy cooking" I'll bet. They aren't known for their reconstructed view of their women folk. Firm belief that a woman's role is to a) cook and clean and b) raise a new generation of blond haired blue eyes little nazis to carry on the fight. He's the first NF supporter I've come across for about 10 years. I didn't know there were any of em left :P Must have been a proper hardline activist back in the day to still list himself that way.

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