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Old 03-29-2007, 11:46 AM   #46
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I assume you mean "valid", in which case you are deliberately putting words into Glatt's mouth. And thereby being an arsehole.

On the other hand if you mean "valued" you are quite right. Stick around, get to know people, stop double and triple posting and perhaps we will come to value your opinion even if we disagree with the actual idea behind it.
Ok, yes spelling error.

Valid. I was deliberately being an asshole but not putting anything into anyones mouth. I'll leave that to the people who started this little ditty.

Where am I double and tripple posting???? really.

And how is this poster:

Originally Posted by BigV
"The point" of the Hall of Fame:
Regardless whether you're "missing" the point or "ignoring" it, you still aren't "getting it."
not being an asshole?
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:48 AM   #47
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I think I might mean tailgating (responding more than once where your post is the last one in the thread)

It's not in The Rules. I'm offering my opinion is all....
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:53 AM   #48
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I think I might mean tailgating (responding more than once where your post is the last one in the thread)

It's not in The Rules. I'm offering my opinion is all....
Tailgating. I guess I never heard of that. I just thought of it as conversation. I'm not doing it just to be the last one in the thread, really. I was just participating. Nothing more.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:56 AM   #49
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I've never really understood why 'tailgating' is a problem. Sometimes you just want to keep responses separate.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:14 PM   #50
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Sigh...I wish someone would tailgate me. It's been so long. (This one's for Shel.)

By the way, Sheldon, I hope you don't mind when I call you Shel. I don't really know you well enough to assume you don't mind being called that. Sometimes people don't like nicknames...so let me know if I've been obtrusive.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:19 PM   #51
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And how is this poster:

Originally Posted by BigV
"The point" of the Hall of Fame:
Regardless whether you're "missing" the point or "ignoring" it, you still aren't "getting it."
not being an asshole?
He's not being an asshole because it is a thread he started. He set it up as a gift to the Cellar community. It's a place where we can put all the good posts from the rest of the Cellar so we can find them easily. It's a special thread to many here. You were posting in it in an inappropriate way. After it was explained to you why the thread was a special thread, you dismissed the explanation in the quote I posted above.

That's why he wasn't being an asshole, but you were. He was correct that you weren't getting it. By quoting him here, you confirm that you still weren't getting it.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:22 PM   #52
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Let me add that I still have hope for you. You bring a new perspective to the Cellar. You are mixing it with an attitude, and that detracts from what you have to offer.

Edit: Sorry this sounds so freaking condescending. Didn't mean for it to.

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Old 03-29-2007, 12:23 PM   #53
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I've never really understood why 'tailgating' is a problem. Sometimes you just want to keep responses separate.
I do it sometimes because I think of something a while after posting, and want to add that thought. I guess it could be a problem if everyone was tired of a particular thread, and one poster just wouldn't let it die.

I think that sometimes extreme conservatives, at least in what passes for mainstream political discourse, seem defensive because it's in the very meaning of the word conservative -- while progressives welcome social change, conservatives see the majority of changes to tradition as a negative. Therefore, even at times when conservatives are in the majority in the sense that most people vote republican and support conservative issues, they are still fighting against the current.

I strongly believe that eventually, inclusive sex education in all public schools will be considered as shocking as hearing the word "crap" on TV is now, and gay marriage will be about as protested as interracial marriage is now. The overarching trends in social change are liberal. Someone like Bill O'Reilly managed to seem angry all the time even when the President, most of Congress and more than half of the American people agreed with him, because this is not the world he grew up in, and his children and grandchildren are going to grow up in worlds even farther removed from that "innocent time." Anger and defensiveness are an understandable reaction to that reality.

This isn't a commentary on TheMercenary, whose posts I mostly haven't encountered. I generally feel that he who has never been an asshole on the internet should cast the first stone, and heaven knows that isn't me. But it's my personal explanation for why conservative pundits tend to seem like their arteries are about to burst.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:28 PM   #54
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Let me add that I still have hope for you.
I don't think you realize exactly what you are dealing with. Yet.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:31 PM   #55
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.... So if you don't agree with my take on things I am an asshole? Hmmmmmm.... Ok. I accept that. Issue over.
No, if you act like an asshole, people will think you're an asshole. Your #1) behavior detracts from your #2) take on things. It's two separate issues. I've explained this already, there shouldn't be any more confusion. Issue over? No, issue ignored. Again.

I didn't intend this to be a "call-out thread" - I actually am curious about this observed phenomenon: why do people of any political leaning let their abusive personalities besmirch the name of what they claim to stand for? You could say the same thing about people of any political stripe. I just happen to have observed, on this and many other boards, that there is a particular flavor of rude asshole that seems to reside in a certain political zone. You just happen to be the latest example in a long line of remarkably similar posters I've seen blow through here.

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... Make up crap about me, who I am, what I think from some minor postings on a public forum is out of line.
I don't claim to know anything about you other than what I've seen you post here, and of that, I've probably seen only a small bit. Maybe I'm making a glaring mischaracterization of your output, but I don't think it will hurt your feelings. If it does, I apologize.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:31 PM   #56
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Sigh...I wish someone would tailgate me. It's been so long. (This one's for Shel.)

By the way, Sheldon, I hope you don't mind when I call you Shel. I don't really know you well enough to assume you don't mind being called that. Sometimes people don't like nicknames...so let me know if I've been obtrusive.
Actually I prefer being called Shel. It's how I sign notes, etc.
But if you ever want to piss me off, call me "Shelly".

btw, it's been a LOOOOONG time since I was tailgated too. I'm mostly a top so I do the tailgating. hehehe
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:36 PM   #57
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:45 PM   #58
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You know, I think one day we'll all look back on this and laugh.

Sometimes I like to chuckle at the old threads from when I first got here.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:46 PM   #59
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:48 PM   #60
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Well, if anybody thought I was a dick when I joined, I guess you can look at this thread and say, "Oh, this is what Flint being a dick looks like!"
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