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Strength of their convictions? Episcopalian Rift With Anglicans
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Funny... those bad ol' gays are not so bad now that the checkbook's lookin' a bit thin, huh? The idea that the American church is using money to "buy influence" is bull. the Anglican's were the one's to state that they would break with the Episcopalian church, ending the funding, not the other way around. This is just them back-pedaling for something said without thinking. What is truly sad is that Europe's members are probably more progressive in this area than most Americans, but a few nut-jobs at the top of the Anglican church are making them all look like a bunch of bigots. Such is the trap of dogma to begin with. |
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There are Episcopal Churches in the United States that are seeking to break with the Episcopal Church U.S. and seek direct membership in the Anglican Communion.
(one of my docs at work is CofE from Africa and attends an Episcopal Church in the Philadelphia Area. His congregation is discussing making that move)
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I knew what this was going to look like before I saw it.
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Being in and of this religious persuasion, I take an interest in developments. What I tell anyone asking pointed questions is, "We Episcopalians are not Pharisees, and don't take unseemly pleasure in determining who is saved and who isn't." And for Pete's sake, homosexuals somehow don't need God? Where is that written?
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Maybe it's about time to go back to allowing RC priests to marry. They cut that off to end the nepotism of hereditary sees -- which did not prevent the Church from becoming a huge economic bloc in Europe in the centuries following.
But a commitment to celibacy has an appeal to someone running from what is undeniably his sexuality, however reprehensible, and I think this is one root of the Church's sex scandals. Why not strike at that root?
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I'm an Episcopalian, and the churches in my town are split. The whole thing sucks and makes me very sad/mad--that ostensibly religious people are so full of hatred and fear over this one issue.
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Ok, wait, maybe it doesn't really say that... It's a sign! Follow the Shoe! No it isn't! This is the sign! Follow the Gourd!
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RC's are in a bad spot because the African church is the only part growing and their homegrown leadership is Falwell Robertson Dobson batshit crazy.
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My former parish church was modern (1950s), but I loved it...open air, little gold, frescoes...cool shit.
Yeah...I think most of the North Americans and Western Europeans are CINOs. Neither side is going to give...and I'm not sure that the people necessarily should. People grow and change...so do institutions. |
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That's important, but it's a distant second to what they really should do- stop covering up and hiding the pedophiles!
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Why not let gay priests marry the same sex?
How is that different than a priest who has lied in the past being allowed to marry, or one that eats pork on a regular basis? I see no difference. |
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