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Old 02-04-2007, 05:55 PM   #1
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I didn't specify what you were afraid of, I only reasoned fear is the only thing that would make you care .... and I was right.

Actually, according to research, fear is at the root of anger, not caring.

I don't think you have to fear something to think it's wrong. Of course, you could argue that there is a root fear, but that's based on a lot more things than the simple emotion brought about which is named fear. For example, I don't see a gun and immediately feel afraid. As has been pointed out, it's an inanimate object. However, when I see a gun in the hands of a loony, I feel fear, which is employed as my defense mechanism. I personally think there's a big distinction there.

What does everyone else think?
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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However, when I see a gun in the hands of a loony, I feel fear...
How do you identify loonies? Because they have a gun? Or because they just "look that way"?
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:48 PM   #3
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How do you identify loonies? Because they have a gun? Or because they just "look that way"?
Quite correct. You only know a loony with a gun *after* they've shot up the schoolhouse full of Amish children.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:46 PM   #4
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How do you identify loonies? Because they have a gun? Or because they just "look that way"?
I identify them as the ones trying to shoot innocent people.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:52 PM   #5
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I identify them as the ones trying to shoot innocent people.
They may be loonies. Or they may simply be criminals.

There's a difference between insanity and ethical impairment.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:40 PM   #6
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I didn't specify what you were afraid of, I only reasoned fear is the only thing that would make you care .... and I was right.

Actually, according to research, fear is at the root of anger, not caring.

I don't think you have to fear something to think it's wrong. Of course, you could argue that there is a root fear, but that's based on a lot more things than the simple emotion brought about which is named fear. For example, I don't see a gun and immediately feel afraid. As has been pointed out, it's an inanimate object. However, when I see a gun in the hands of a loony, I feel fear, which is employed as my defense mechanism. I personally think there's a big distinction there.

What does everyone else think?
Nonsense. Would you care if I had a kitten? Would you care if I had a boat? Would you care if I had a toaster? No, you only care if I have a gun, because you're not afraid of what I will do with a kitten, boat or toaster.

The only reason you care, the only reason you think you're entitled to pass judgement, is your fear. :p
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:58 PM   #7
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Fear

There are rational and irrational fears, right? Like: fear of fire, fear of heights, these are probably pretty good, instinctive responses.
Fear of deadly weapons, this seems to fall in the rational category. Fear of kittens or toasters, these would be irrational. ...

btw: I'll take my answer "off the air" ...I don't plan to spend the next 50 posts defending a position I haven't stated. I know how these "debates" get.
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