Let them eat cake!

[BigMcLargeHuge]

Originally Posted by anonymous

Comment from the peanut gallery: Then why do you continue to play the game? It reminds me of the playground where the big kids all pick on one of the others. After two years, why do you still derive satisfaction from the game? Could it be that some of you have self esteem issues and are throwing your own character defects out in the open? This has been a very interesting read, I must say.

Carry on.

pussy

Originally Posted by BigMcLargeHuge

pussy

Cock

[DanaC]

she PLAINLY has the acumen and the education to work if she chose to. despite all of her excuses to the contrary, her very thoroughly researched reasons why she can;t work are, in direct conflict with her statements, evidence that she COULD.

On what knowledge of the myriad ways in which neurological problems can and do affect disparate individuals, do you base that statement?

I wasn't intending to involve myself in this discussion any further, as i believe it has become skewed towards the ridiculous and frankly nasty; however, i feel compelled to refute the constant assertions that anything Mari has written here bear any kind of evidence towards her ability to work, or lack thereof.

In my work as a councillor, about ten per cent of my cases relate to social services and/or provisions. I have a regular queue of people for whom the proving of their disability is less than simple. Despite letters and reports from doctors and consultants, people are often refused on the grounds that they seemed alright/cogent/healthy/confident or articulate on the days they have had to interract with staff. The fact that these people are often choosing to visit the agency to deal with their claims on precisely those days when they are most able to cope with the process is rarely taken into account.

The thing I find most sickening about this, and I find it strongly echoed on this board, is that those people are accounted as liars and malingerers and thereby forced into a position of (or in the case of marichiko taunted into) defending their condition.....defending a condition they most likely hate and fighting for their right to be recognised as sick/disabled. Psychologically, I cannot believe it is helpful for people who are labouring under an illness or disability which is controlling many, aspects of their life, to have to defend that illness or disability.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by DanaC

The thing I find most sickening about this, and I find it strongly echoed on this board, is that those people are accounted as liars and malingerers and thereby forced into a position of (or in the case of marichiko taunted into) defending their condition.....defending a condition they most likely hate and fighting for their right to be recognised as sick/disabled. Psychologically, I cannot believe it is helpful for people who are labouring under an illness or disability which is controlling many, aspects of their life, to have to defend that illness or disability.

Who are those people? Give me some examples of the strong echoes, ones that don't invlove multichiko.

Originally Posted by jinx

Who are those people? Give me some examples of the strong echoes, ones that don't invlove multichiko.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IDA/messages

You have to sign up as a member, though, and I warn you that they will not exactly love you if you show them the same attitude as you have me.

[Flint]

Y'all are talking about one individual person, right? Ah hell, let's lump all "disabled people" together. "They" are "all the same" right?

[DanaC]

'Those people' refers to the people I represent; the echoes, refer to this thread: the attitudes displayed to Mari's condition; the legions of armchair neurologists/psychiatrists/fraud detectors; the experiences brought to the debate by several other posters; and finally, the experiences I had during a prolonged illness in my childhood, teenage years and early twenties, which I started to post about and then decided to erase and start again, because a significant proportion of the people posting here cannot be trusted with details of such a personal experience.

[jinx]

What the hell? I was looking for a real answer Dana. Who here gets picked on for anything other than the bullshit they post?

[lumberjim]

well, we've got that going for us then, i guess.

[DanaC]

yup.

[DanaC]

I'm all out of answers Jinx, I have plenty of questions, but frankly I'd rather not know the answers to them.

[JayMcGee]

I guess that would be the one who doesn't post BS......


now, who's going to cast the next stone?

[DanaC]

The innocent of course :P

[Aliantha]

Can we just get back to the cricket now???

[DanaC]

Yes....for once yes.