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11-18-2006, 06:59 PM
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We have to go back, Kate!
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Yeah. Fairness isn't the least important.
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11-18-2006, 08:20 PM
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Fuck fairness.
We're America, we don't have to be fair, because God is on our side. (Repeat, but substitute Jewish, Islamic dieties, then have all kill each other.)
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11-18-2006, 09:07 PM
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erika
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Being treated fairly and equally, not being discriminated against, IS a human right, and it is completely unacceptable to deny anything to someone based on their sex.
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11-18-2006, 09:28 PM
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Bioengineer and aspiring lawer
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Fuck fairness is exactly the mindset of America today, it frustrates me to no end. However, gay marriage is not the most pressing issue in this catagory. We have problems with education, health care, taxes, social security, immigration, the list goes on and on. The ultimate in fairness is ideal libertarianism, but there is a big enough bleeding heart population here to rule that out. Fairness is letting the crack addict freeze to death on the street. Fairness is taking kids away from incompetent parents so they have a decent shot at life. Fairness is mother taking a screaming kid around to all the tables in the restaurant to apologise and humble themselves on threat of spanking. Fairness is tough and heartless, and frankly most people don't have the guts to be fair. Fair means equal exchange in all cases, no inherent rights, tough titty for you if you f*ck things up.
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11-18-2006, 09:42 PM
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11-18-2006, 09:52 PM
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Both are, leftists are pressing for the laws to be passed and rightists are pushing back with equal pressure.
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11-18-2006, 10:39 PM
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erika
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No, rightwing nutjobs are trying to get it BANNED, and leftwing commies, with the exception of a few activists, are doing jack shit.
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11-18-2006, 10:47 PM
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I don't see how its not being "the most important issue" is relavant... that is really confusing to me.
We can do only one thing at at time? It is a human/civil rights issue. Partners not being able to share in the suffering at a hospital, deal with taxes together, be a family legally, share in all aspects that all other families do because others (who have no business sticking their noses into their lives) want to have a say, say so... is definitely a violation of their civil rights. Last edited by rkzenrage; 11-18-2006 at 10:50 PM. |
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11-19-2006, 02:16 AM
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Don't bring the tired argument of "you can't stick your nose into my life", if what you do affects me, I have every right to get involved in your buisness. Does this affect me, absolutely. I can make the choice of whether I agree with the changes or not, but don't delude yourself that anything people do has no effect on others.
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11-19-2006, 02:43 AM
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11-19-2006, 08:34 AM
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We have to go back, Kate!
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11-19-2006, 03:39 PM
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11-20-2006, 05:01 PM
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11-20-2006, 05:26 PM
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11-20-2006, 05:32 PM
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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Yep, old 9 was in and out today...and didn't answer this question. Typical. Saw it and  (Here's where I get called a bleeding heart commie or something.)
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