If you outlaw guns, then only....

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Spexx, did you just blatantly ignore Griff's point,

Originally Posted by Griff

Was he going to be allowed to walk away and maybe contact authorities? Why let the criminals decide whether or not Noodle spends the rest of his days on a respirator? Noodle did not initiate force, but they chose to at a minimum intimidate and their further intentions were not clear, he had a moral obligation to respond.

I responded to his moral obligation to respond assertion. Would he be allowed to walk away? I don’t know. Could he have avoided the conflict better? Probably. He allowed himself to be cornered. They chose at a minimum to intimidate? Intimidation is not a cause of death, as far as I know.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

completely drop one side of the equation,

Which side would that be?

Originally Posted by Undertoad

and falsely amplify the other side of the equation to the worst possible outcome in order to win the argument?…

I would never amplify the other side of the equation to the worst possible outcome by saying something like:

Originally Posted by Griff

Noodle spends the rest of his days on a respirator?