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Old 10-27-2006, 12:00 PM   #1
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I don't see why they are mutually exclusive. If God is all powerful, all things become possible. Trying to figure out "which member of the trinity did the creating" is based on a human construct of the trinity. We think in terms of easily separated, individual parts, or three ingredients of a whole. God's paradigm is likely to be infinitely more complex and/or more simple than our crude attempts at categorizing.

the thing that you have to account for is that human understanding cannot grasp -- or possibly even envision -- the magnitude of God. Even to say that God is in "everything" limits him to the "everything" that we can imagine.

So the issue isn't really the trinity vs. ID. It's whether or not God is God.

edit: morethanpretty beat me, and said it more concisely
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:11 PM   #2
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Trying to figure out "which member of the trinity did the creating" is based on a human construct of the trinity.
Correct. I am asking specifically about human constructs.
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So the issue isn't really the trinity vs. ID. It's whether or not God is God.
That's an interesting issue, but it's not the issue I'm addressing.
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:36 PM   #3
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Correct. I am asking specifically about human constructs.
That's an interesting issue, but it's not the issue I'm addressing.
It's the answer to your question, actually. Here's the original:
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Of the three parts of the Trinity, which one did the "Intelligent Designing" of biological mechanisms?
The answer is that God designed biological mechanisms. "The trinity" is a crude, probably inaccurate reflection of the vast complexity of God. The answer that you're looking for is "the father", but it's not exactly accurate.

Again, this is a crude example. If I asked what held the hammer that pounded in the nail, the answer is, simultaneously:

a person
a carpenter
a hand
a glove
5 fingers
a man (or woman)
Bob (or whatever name is accurate)

Each of these has a different definition, but they're all part of the same. Also, you are probably not asking about a single nail, but about the building itself. Or maybe the entire city. So the answer then expands to include the architect, the planner, the government. Every question you answer reveals a wider scope and changes the question subtly.

God is God. He is the answer to all of the questions. That is, of course, absolute nonsense if it's approached from a direction that, being human, is inherently flawed.
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