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Old 06-17-2006, 10:36 PM   #1
MaggieL
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If by knocking, occupants would have time to destroy evidence...
One more time: the cops *did* knock. Do try to ignore the false headline and subhead...I know it's hard.
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Which then asks what was this evidence, so massive, as to make them 'dangerous criminals'?
Given the loaded, concealed, easily available and illegally-posessed firearm, I'd say they were plenty dangerous to cops executing a warrant. Just think: had these defendants had adopted rkzenrage's policy re: home invasions? Most home invasions I know of with the invaders pretending to be cops have been drug thefts.
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Old 06-17-2006, 10:48 PM   #2
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One more time: the cops *did* knock. Do try to ignore the false headline and subhead...I know it's hard.
Given the loaded, concealed, easily available and illegally-posessed firearm, I'd say they were plenty dangerous to cops executing a warrant. Just think: had these defendants had adopted rkzenrage's policy re: home invasions? Most home invasions I know of with the invaders pretending to be cops have been drug thefts.
And if they raid the wrong address? Is one cry of 'police' and 3-5 seconds really reasonable?


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The officer may break open any outer or inner door or window of a house, or any part of a house, or anything therein, to execute a search warrant, if, after notice of his authority and purpose, he is refused admittance or when necessary to liberate himself or a person aiding him in the execution of the warrant
So if the suspect cannot make it to the door in 3-5 seconds to let the cops in, he has refused admittance?
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Old 06-17-2006, 10:51 PM   #3
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Given the loaded, concealed, easily available and illegally-posessed firearm, I'd say they were plenty dangerous to cops executing a warrant.
Ever see cops execute a warrant on a dangerous suspect? The time between the shouting of "POLICE!" and the battering ram causing the door to explode inwards is about a millisecond, perhaps with a stingball tossed for good measure.

I fail to see how the requirement of police annoucing themselves poses a threat when tactics like that are used regularly.
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