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Old 05-24-2006, 08:26 PM   #1
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Thereby demonstrating that despite geography they are the big ones
Until Iran has some too? Then will things be "even"?

I doubt it...Iran has already announced their policy towards Israel. Even a glazed-crater response from the US would be cold comfort to any Israeli survivors.

The strategic utility of nukes is a very complex issue. and the outcome of the '67 war may be more due to this than anything else. It certainly wasn't due to any help from the US; the only US military unit to see action in the 1967 war was USS Liberty.
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:10 PM   #2
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It certainly wasn't due to any help from the US; the only US military unit to see action in the 1967 war was USS Liberty.
Right. They won in 1967 without nukes, and without much US support. Now they have nukes, they've been militarizing more and more, and their relationship with the US is stronger. Plus, as your link says, their military is much better trained and prepared. You are strengthening my point. Israel is bigger.
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Old 05-24-2006, 10:58 PM   #3
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...as your link says, their military is much better trained and prepared. You are strengthening my point. Israel is bigger.
That doesn't make them bigger, it only makes them smarter.

Will Iran be bigger than it is now when it goes nuclear? Is it bigger because it's currently cozy with Russia and China?
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:46 AM   #4
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Will Iran be bigger than it is now when it goes nuclear? Is it bigger because it's currently cozy with Russia and China?
Yes.
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:22 PM   #5
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Until Iran has some too? Then will things be "even"?
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Since when did Iran become an Arab state?

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Persian 51%, Azeri 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:14 PM   #6
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Since when did Iran become an Arab state?
Who said they were? I didn't.

Maybe you'll like this map better.



Yellow bearing labels is Arab or other Muslim states hostile to Israel. Red and blue are the original Palestine.

Red being the Jewish Palestinian State and blue being Transjordan, the Arab Palestinian state.

Oh...the red is the Jewish Palestinian state before 1947 when the UN subtracted Gaza, the West Bank and a piece of Golan to make...erm...well

..another Arab Palestinian state. That must be that "two-state solution" people are always talking about...Palestine *and* Jordan.
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